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Re: Non-IE <was: Romance Languages>: Verbs "to be"

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From: Craig Cockburn
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 06:40
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In article <1992Oct28.000928.17956@trl.oz.au>, jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes...
>comjohn@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. John T Jensen) writes:
> 
> 
>>If of interest, the distinction exists in Yapese, an Austronesian language
>>of the Western Caroline Islands.  baay (present)/qimmoey (past) mean 'to be
>>at' and 'there exists', 'to be' as essence is not verbal at all.  When I
>>think about it, it does not seem to me obvious that there should be any
>>strong connexion between these two meanings.
> 

There seems a similarity with Scots Gaelic here, there are two verbs to
be "Tha" and the emphatic form "is".

The second one is obviously descended from the same place as the same verb in
English, French etc, but the first came from a verb in Gaelic which meant 
"to stand".

There is now another verb "to stand" in Gaelic, and the verbal noun is
"a' seasamh"


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Subject: Re: Non-IE <was: Romance Languages>: Verbs "to be"
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