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Re: what has happened to "ascribe" ?

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From: Roger Greenwald
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:45
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In article <92204.135724GRV101@psuvm.psu.edu> Callec Dradja <GRV101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.190619.21438@alf.uib.no>, hlirg@alf.uib.no (Roger
>Greenwald) says:
>>
>>
>>A worse one is that the New York
>>Times usually contains at least a few sentences every day in
>>which the verb does not agree with the subject in number.
>>The most common case is that of sentences that begin with
>>"There is" or "there was," and then follow up with a list
>>of items, each of which is singular. (There is anger and
>>frustration in Sarajevo tonight.) But there are many other
>>cases as well. You can say the writers can't count from
>>one to two; or you can say that the plural form of "to be"
>>is gradually disappearing from English. The latter is a linguist's
>>type of description. In this case it's probably correct, even if it
>>may be regrettable.
>>--
>I think that this phenomena is not new. We talked about this very
>topic in one of my grammar classes and it seems that in a list,
>Standard English speakers will use a verb that agrees with the nearest
>subject. This type of speech has been used by educated speakers for
>quite some time.
>
"phenomena" is plural :-) (but I'm sure not everyone who writes
for the NY Times knows that either).

It is true that in a sentence that contains a list, especially
if it starts with expletive "There," a native speaker may feel
it "sounds funny" to have "are" followed by a singular noun; but
this tends to be the case only when the noun is preceded by
an indefinite article. Thus: "There are a chair and a table on
the east wall" puts "are" next to "a chair", and that can
sound odd. But "There are anger and frustration here tonight"
should not sound equally odd (or, in my view, odd at all).

If you consult Fowler on what to do if a verb comes after, say,
a subject consisting of a plural noun, "or", and then a singular
noun, you will probably find that he says one way out is
to make the verb agree with the noun that is closest, but
that the BEST way out is to recast the sentence! I agree.
Note, however, that this was not the sort of case I was referring
to as a lack of agreement.
-- 
Roger Greenwald
Greenwald@hf.uib.no (address valid only until 10 August 1992)
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Subject: Re: what has happened to "ascribe" ?
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