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Article #143Re: Chomsky's "Minimalist" paper
From: David M Pesetsky
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:36
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:36
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In article <hoeksema.5.711896611@let.rug.nl> hoeksema@let.rug.nl (J. Hoeksema) writes: > > >Question to David: Is there then anything in this minimalist paper >that IS new, exciting, or even halfway right? New: yes, of course. I did not suggest that the paper did not contain new material, merely that the "shockers" that Schiller presented for our amazement were interesting but logical consequences of proposals already in the literature. Furthermore, the consequences of the abandonment of the LGB Projection Principle are necessarily tempered by alternatives that yield similar empirical effects. Exciting: That's a matter of taste. Read it and find out. Halfway right: Well, let's stop here for a moment. Every paper in linguistics, but particularly Chomsky's papers, is an assemblage of different ideas whose connections to each other may vary in strength and inevitability. In the present case, although the different sections of the paper are made consistent with one another, there are a number of logically quite separate proposals in the paper, and one's judgment about them can be similarly diverse. Here are my first thoughts. This paper explores a "uniform" theory of abstract Case that I find unconvincing and probably wrong. But that's me. Read it for yourself, why don't you? It proposes a new view of syntactic derivations that eliminates S-structure that I find challengingly interesting, refreshing and perhaps right -- though its consequences are not fully clear to me right now. It proposes the elimination of D-structure and a theory of generalized transformations to replace this notion. Since, as I indicated, this is a response to Larsonian shells, the motivation for this move will probably rise or fall with the legitimacy of Larsonian structures (unless new evidence comes in). I have my own alternative to Larsonian structures, so I am unimpressed. On the other hand, there has always been a serious lack of motivation for one choice or another concerning the character of initial structures (e.g. the D-structure vs. indexed S-structure debate), so it is not clear whether -- absent empirical considerations -- one should prefer Chomsky's current view, Chomsky's older view, Koster-Rizzi indexed S-structures, or some other idea. It proposes an account of many Relativized Minimality effects as well as other conditions on A-movement, head-movement, etc. in terms of a simple conception of Economy that has complicated consequences. A necessary relaxation to allow his Case theory to work seems to yield results concerning the distirbution of Object Shift in the Scandinavian languages. This is an impressive entry in a crowded horse-race, and I cannot tell at this point where truth lies. But it is surely interesting, and at least half-way right. It proposes a view of movement as copying that gets almost all the reconstructions facts right without stipulation (for the first time), but not quite all of them. So it's the best view of movement around, I think, but still missing something. So it's worth looking at if you're interested in the topics, yes. It's serious, responds to a huge amount of literature about a wide variety of languages, and well deserves its likely position as one of a number of hot topics in the coming year. Right or wrong? Neither, most likely, as discussed above. -David Pesetsky
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!athena.mit.edu!pesetsk From: pesetsk@athena.mit.edu (David M Pesetsky) Subject: Re: Chomsky's "Minimalist" paper Message-ID: <1992Jul23.193639.25731@athena.mit.edu> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Nntp-Posting-Host: e40-008-5.mit.edu Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology References: <SCHILLER.92Jul21162632@tira.uchicago.edu> <1992Jul22.012952.2118@athena.mit.edu> <hoeksema.5.711896611@let.rug.nl> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:36:39 GMT Lines: 65