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Re: Chomsky's "Minimalist" paper

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From: Michael Zeleny
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:02
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In article <36538@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> 
djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.113534.4232@athena.mit.edu> 
>pesetsk@athena.mit.edu (David M Pesetsky) writes:

DMP:
>>nam est' 

Wrong case.  Try "u nas est' komu pomoch' yemu"

>>mnye   (bylo)   pomoch'     yemu

Nonsense.  The ellipsis is not allowable; in any case, it should have
been "mnye nado/nuzhno bylo pomoch' yemu"

>>me-DAT was-NEUT help-infin  him-DAT

me-DAT need was-NEUT help-infin  him-DAT

>>`I had to help him/I was supposed to help him`
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>There are more interesting cases, like (cf. Gil Rappaport, Russian
>>Linguistics circa 1986):
>>
>>nam est' komu pomoch' yemu

"u nas est' komu pomoch' yemu"

Where do you get these experts?

DAJ:
>Here's one I ran into on soc.culture.soviet a couple of months ago:
>
>        v  Kieve ix       bylo          polno
>        in Kiev  them-GEN was-NEUT/SING full-NEUT/SING

Wrong case (same spelling):
         in Kiev  them-ACC was-NEUT/SING many

Attention: "p\'olno" = "full"; "poln\'o" = "many".

>        'Kiev was full of them (Russians, as I remember)'
>
>David Johns

regards,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
who has the authority of a native speaker
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