Article View: sci.lang
Article #2040Re: "n'ha" == "daughter of" ? Language?
From: claudia mastroianni
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:09
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:09
45 lines
2607 bytes
2607 bytes
In article <1993Jan19.232437.5103@memstvx1.memst.edu> connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes: >In article <1993Jan18.002137.6847@trl.oz.au>, jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes: >> connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes: >> >> >>>Well, whatever n'ha is, it isn't Romance.... [deletion] >> >> No, it isn't Breton. In Breton c'h is a single letter (just like >> ch, dd, ff etc in Welsh) that represents a velar fricative (i.e. >> = Welsh ch). > [Much deletion] I'm sorry, I didn't see the origin of this thread, but I suspect all you real linguists (by comparison, this is my first semester as a Ling. major) are barking up the wrong tree. Any science fiction fans out there? You see, Name n'ha Mother's-name is the form of address used in a science fiction series I know and love. If you knew this and are speculating whether it was taken from a real language, I apologize for wasting bandwidth. If you didn't, read on. It's the Darkover series by Marion Zimmer Bradley. The women, known as Renunciates or Free Amazons, took an oath that gave them relative freedom in the extremely patriarchal society the novels are set in. They used, for example, Claudia n'ha Charlotte (that'd be me! -- not that I go by it) to avoid taking a man's name. This *was* fiction only, until (female) fans of Bradley's novels started to adopt this convention. The author has been asked by women, at science fiction conventions, to take their oaths (lifted direct from the novels) so that the women feel they are true Renunciates as in the novels. Some legally change their names, so this is indeed what you might find on someone's birth certificate, but the word "n'ha" was invented, by Ms. Bradley. The language she invented does resemble some real languages, but does not, so far as I know, come from any particular language. Nor did she give elaborate glossaries, a la Tolkien. Hope this helps, Claudia Mastroianni
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<1993Jan22.190927.19692@husc3.harvard.edu>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!ogicse!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc8.harvard.edu!mastrReferences:
<1993Jan14.222532.5043@memstvx1.memst.edu> <1993Jan18.002137.6847@trl.oz.au> <1993Jan19.232437.5103@memstvx1.memst.edu>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uwm.edu!ogicse!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc8.harvard.edu!mastr From: mastr@husc8.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni) Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: "n'ha" == "daughter of" ? Language? Message-ID: <1993Jan22.190927.19692@husc3.harvard.edu> Date: 23 Jan 93 00:09:26 GMT Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan22.190927.19692 References: <1993Jan14.222532.5043@memstvx1.memst.edu> <1993Jan18.002137.6847@trl.oz.au> <1993Jan19.232437.5103@memstvx1.memst.edu> Organization: Harvard University Science Center Lines: 45 Nntp-Posting-Host: husc8.harvard.edu