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Article #2148Clowning around in Latin textbooks (was Re: Esperanto a natural language?)
From: Rich Alderson
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:53
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:53
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In article <C1FCnA.7pw@spss.com>, markrose@spss (Mark Rosenfelder) writes:
>In article <16B5E12A48.JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU> JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:
>>Solely in the interest of "le sport", let's consider first the Latin sentence
>>"Loquitur latine." [...]
>
>>(By the by, I used "latine" in the above example as my Latin reference works
>>do not indicate to which declension "Esperanto" belongs in Latin.)
>
>I wonder if the Catholic Church has come up with an official New Latin
>translation for "Esperanto." Failing that, one could perhaps loan-translate--
>Sperans, nonne? Or perhaps lingua Doctoris Sperantis?
>
>My Latin primer, _Latina pro populo_, claims that the word for 'clown' is
>_bozo_, borrowed from the Greek; it even supplies a useful illustrative
>sentence: "Bozo in insula tres imperatores in Romae sunt pares."
>Or were Humez and Humez just pulling my leg?
According to my _English-Greek Dictionary: A Vocabulary of the Attic Language_
(compiled by S. C. Woodhouse; Routledge and Kegan Paul):
Clown, subs. use adj. -- Ar. and P. a'groikos, P. and V. skaio's. _Peasant_:
P. and V. autourgo's, ho. erga:'te:s, ho. _Buffoon_: P. and V. gelo:topoio's.
_Play the clown_ v.: P. gelo:topoiei~n.
Clownish, adj. a'groikos, skaio's, Ar. agrei~os.
(Ar. = Aristophanes, P. = "in prose," V. = "in verse." Accents follow the
accented vowel or diphthong; colon marks length of preceding vowel; smooth breathing unmarked, rough marked by <h>.)
--
Rich Alderson 'I wish life was not so short,' he thought. 'Languages take
such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
--J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu _The Lost Road_
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!digex.com!intercon!udel!bogus.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!nntp.Stanford.EDU!alderson From: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson) Subject: Clowning around in Latin textbooks (was Re: Esperanto a natural language?) In-Reply-To: markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder) Message-ID: <1993Jan27.175307.22346@leland.Stanford.EDU> Summary: bozo bozeis bozei bozomen bozete bozousin Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Reply-To: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson) Organization: Cisco Systems (MIS) References: <C14BzL.9B@spss.com> <12471@sorley.ed.ac.uk> <16B5E12A48.JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU> <C1FCnA.7pw@spss.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:53:07 GMT Lines: 34