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Clowning around in Latin textbooks (was Re: Esperanto a natural language?)

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From: Rich Alderson
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:53
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In article <C1FCnA.7pw@spss.com>, markrose@spss (Mark Rosenfelder) writes:
>In article <16B5E12A48.JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU> JAREA@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:

>>Solely in the interest of "le sport", let's consider first the Latin sentence
>>"Loquitur latine."  [...]
>
>>(By the by, I used "latine" in the above example as my Latin reference works
>>do not indicate to which declension "Esperanto" belongs in Latin.)
>
>I wonder if the Catholic Church has come up with an official New Latin
>translation for "Esperanto."  Failing that, one could perhaps loan-translate--
>Sperans, nonne?  Or perhaps lingua Doctoris Sperantis?
>
>My Latin primer, _Latina pro populo_, claims that the word for 'clown' is
>_bozo_, borrowed from the Greek; it even supplies a useful illustrative
>sentence: "Bozo in insula tres imperatores in Romae sunt pares."  
>Or were Humez and Humez just pulling my leg?  

According to my _English-Greek Dictionary:  A Vocabulary of the Attic Language_
(compiled by S. C. Woodhouse; Routledge and Kegan Paul):

Clown, subs. use adj. -- Ar. and P. a'groikos, P. and V. skaio's.  _Peasant_:
P. and V. autourgo's, ho. erga:'te:s, ho.  _Buffoon_:  P. and V. gelo:topoio's.
_Play the clown_ v.:  P. gelo:topoiei~n.

Clownish, adj. a'groikos, skaio's, Ar. agrei~os.

(Ar. = Aristophanes, P. = "in prose," V. = "in verse."  Accents follow the
accented vowel or diphthong; colon marks length of preceding vowel; smooth breathing unmarked, rough marked by <h>.)
-- 
Rich Alderson   'I wish life was not so short,' he thought.  'Languages take
                such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
                                                        --J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu                              _The Lost Road_
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Subject: Clowning around in Latin textbooks (was Re: Esperanto a natural language?)
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