🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.lang
Article #2284

Re: labio-velars to labials, but reverse?

#2284
From: Peter Christian
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:18
28 lines
1828 bytes
In-Reply-To: <1993Jan12.015709.23457@leland.Stanford.EDU> alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)

> In article <memo.854872@cix.compulink.co.uk>, petex@cix (Peter Christian) writes:
> >In-Reply-To: <1993Jan8.002108.20583@leland.Stanford.EDU> alderson@cisco.com (Rich 
Alderson)
>               .
                .
> >Also Latin lupus, though the Oxford Etymological Dictionary says this is a
> >dialect form. (I thought they *all* were!)
> 
> Ah, but Latin has clearly borrowed from one or more dialects and languages in
> its surroundings:  Compare, for example, the expected ruber "red" < *Xrudhros
> (cf. Skt. rudhra-, Gk. eruthros) with the personal name Rufus "red-beard."

That wasn't what I was getting at. I was trying to draw attention to
the ideology of this (very august) etymologist (Onions), who was
using the idea of a dialect form in a way that is appropriate to a
modern standardized language, but less obviously so to Latin -
particularly since the centrality of the wolf in Roman mythology
suggests the borrowing occurred in an early period when Latin had a
status barely different from neighbouring dialects.

Peter
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Christian                         
  Dept of European Languages              peter@gold.ac.uk
  Goldsmiths' College, London.            petex@cix.compulink.co.uk
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Technical Details
Message-ID: <memo.860790@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!demon!cix.compulink.co.uk!petex

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!demon!cix.compulink.co.uk!petex
Newsgroups: sci.lang
From: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk (Peter Christian)
Subject: Re: labio-velars to labials, but reverse?
Reply-To: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:18:00 +0000
Message-ID: <memo.860790@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Lines: 29