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Article #242Re: Frisian classification
From: kyle
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:40
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:40
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In article <1992Jul24.083419.2680@metapro.DIALix.oz.au>, bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche) writes: > In <1992Jul21.173259.242@public.sub.org> > peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel) writes: > >>bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche) writes: > >>>From what I've heard of Frisian (a film on TV) it's about >>>half-way between German and English, > >>Are you sure it was Frisian? I would guess it was Plattdeutsch, which >>is spoken in Ostfriesland, but "Friesisch" is a totally different >>language, today only spoken by few people north in Schleswig-Holstein, >>and Friesisch is more like a celtic/gaelic language, not similar to >>modern German or English. > > Well, I guess I'll have to ask our resident Frisian, when > she returns from her trip around the continent. > > I am certain that it wasn't Plattdeutsch. I'd recognize it > as I used to know some old people who spoke it frequently > when I was visiting them. > -- > +-----+ Bernd Felsche _--_|\ #include <std/disclaimer.h> > | | | | MetaPro Systems Pty Ltd / \ bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au > | | | | 328 Albany Highway, X_.--._/ Fax: +61 9 472 3337 > |m|p|s| Victoria Park, Western Australia 6100 v Phone: +61 9 362 9355 As mentioned in other postings, Frisian is most certainly not Celtic. Indeed, it's similarity to the Germanic language of English (English remains a Germanic language despite a large number of Romance borrowings) is evidenced by the existence of two proverbs, one on each side of the English Channel. In Southern England there is (or was) a saying : "'Bread, butter, and green cheese' is good English and good Fries." There is a very similar saying in Frisian in the northern Netherlands, said for me by someone but not spelt. I will attempt to render it here but if anyone knows Frisian orthography please improve on this; "Breod, boter, en greane sjaes: wie dat niet sjeggen kan, is geen oprjuchte Vries." (Translated: "Bread, butter, and green cheese: he who cannot say that is no upstanding ['upright'] Fries.") By the way, I am not sure that my submissions are being forwarded to the net properly. Can you please acknowledge with a posting, Bernie? Do not e-mail me -- I KNOW that isn't working. Thanks Kyle Maschmeyer, B.Sc. Programmer and student of linguistics Sharecom Industries DeWinton, Alberta Canada. Tel (403) 256-4766
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