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Article #256Re: Alfred E. Neuman sentences
From: Mark Rosenfelder
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 17:43
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 17:43
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connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu (Leo Connolly) writes:
> What, me worry? (Alfred E. Neuman)
> Him learn Russian? Forget it!
and scobbie@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Jim Scobbie) writes:
>A: Did he speak? B: Him?
>A: Did he speak? B: Him speak?
>A: Did he speak? B: Him do what?
>A: Did he speak? B: Him be interesting?
>A: Did he speak? B: Him break the habits of a lifetime?
All of the examples of this construction presented so far seem to have
something in common semantically: "Pron VP" can be paraphrased
"You expect Pron to VP?"
What, me worry?
What, you expect me to worry?
Him {learn Russian | break the habits of a lifetime}?
You expect him to {learn Russian | break the habits of a lifetime}?
Can anyone find examples where the construction has a different meaning?
Better yet, is there any idiom for which the construction might be an
ellipsis or, dare I say it, a transformation?
Actually the subject doesn't have to be a pronoun (but of course here we
can't see what case the subject is in):
What, an American President learn a foreign language? Never!
(For me, at least, the "decorations" ("What...", "Never!") increase the
acceptability of the sentence.)
It also seems that the construction can only occur in the main clause:
*Me worry is impossible.
*I can't see him learn Russian.
but cf.: I can't see him learning Russian.
--Mark Rosenfelder (markrose@spss.com)
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