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Article #258The Mote in God's Eye
From: Mark Rosenfelder
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 19:44
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 19:44
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Just as the argument on _Mote_ got interesting, our news software went flaky, and I was unable to post anything. My arguments were of course scintillating and irrefutable, but in lieu of reposting them I will just make two general comments. First, I want to point out that the Moties are crazy if they think they can solve their population problems through colonization. (And therefore that humans who think their race is in danger of extinction are overexcitable.) a. The project would involve inevitable war with the humans. And from the Moties' point of view, humans are quite scary. They're more numerous, control more planets, and have more experience with the Alderson drive, with the Langston field, and with interstellar war. They're violent, tricky, and not well understood. And though they have Cycles of their own, they are not as devastating. This war would be a huge and foolish risk to take. b. The Mote system is *metal-poor*. Is it really practical for the Moties to build enough colony vessels to ship out their entire population surplus? On Earth right now we add about 90 million people a year. How many spaceships is that? How much metal, how much fuel, how many trained pilots, how much protective armament? How much of all these resources is left for defense of the home system? c. If the Moties did have several systems, each frantically exporting surplus population, they're immediately going to destroy each other in interstellar war. It isn't in any Motie system's interests to allow competition for galactic lebensraum from other Motie planets. (And no, you can't count on Motie species solidarity. At Cycle time, they have none.) Second, I raised the question of racism because I question whether the debate would have gone the same way if the Moties were considered "human". Consider the Sauron Supermen: these were apparently all destroyed, but the ordinary humans of Sauron were not all killed; there's a crewman from there on Blaine's ship. The same kind of racism is seen in the WWII decision to intern US residents of Japanese but not of German descent; also, I believe, in the indignation expressed when Japanese investors (but not British or Canadian ones) buy something like a baseball team, a movie studio, or Rockefeller Center. In human conflicts we generally follow the rule, "Do what is necessary to eliminate the threat, but no more," as Stanley Friesen put it. Our aim in war is generally to destroy the enemy's war-making capacity, and perhaps to change the enemy's leadership or governmental system, if these were what led to the war. Why shouldn't these principles apply to the Moties? It should be easier to destroy the Motie industrial, governmental, and military apparatus, than to destroy every Motie. Then go in and reorganize what's left. --markrose@spss.com
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!destroyer!ncar!uchinews!spssig.spss.com!markrose From: markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder) Subject: The Mote in God's Eye Message-ID: <markrose.712871091@spssig> Date: 3 Aug 92 19:44:51 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: spssrs7.spss.com Organization: SPSS Inc. Lines: 49