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Re: Northern/Southern Cal linguistic split

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From: Jeff Peacock
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:09
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In article <2of3p1$g7c@fido.asd.sgi.com>, jice@echo.asd.sgi.com (John Eisenman) writes:
|> In article <2oeuct$sjt@mizar.usc.edu>, mankin@mizar.usc.edu (Eric
|> Mankin) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> South of the Techachapis, roads are simple "the 10," "the I-5,"
|> |> "The 405"
|> |> 
|> |> In Northern California, people add the word 'highway,' or the
|> |> equivalent. So the same road is "highway 101" up north, but
|> |> simply "the 101" when it's the Ventura Freeway.
|> |> 
|> |> How old is this distinction? Any thoughts as to where it comes
|> |> from?  Kramer's on deadline: if you have ideas, please call her
|> |> at (213)938-6106 as soon as possible. 
|> |> 
|> |> 
|> 
|> Around the SF bay area, I have never heard anyone say anything
|> besides the number.  It's just "280" or "101", never "the 101" or
|> "highway 101".  But then again, almost noone here was born in 
|> California.
|> 
|> --

Opposing viewpoint from a native Northern Californian who spent 4 years
in So Cal. (Just to identify my biases!)  In Northern California people
use numbers, in Southern California they use names.  I have never
noticed as subtle a difference as whether the word 'highway' was used.

If you read the original note you can see it - Ventura Freeway, Pacific
Coast Highway (PCH, to true So Cal citizens).  Often a single freeway
in So Cal will be referred to by half a dozen different names depending
on what stretch of it is being talked about - very confusing for
strangers.  In Northern Cal the 580 is the 580 regardless of whether
you're talking about the Oakland portion or the Pleasanton portion -
it's all the same highway.

-- 
-Jeff
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