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Article #2896Re: Northern/Southern Cal linguistic split
From: Eugene N. Miya
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:09
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:09
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>karl@kraz.usc.edu (Karl Geiger) writes:
>>The names are not only mnemonic but for the most part tell you
>>something about where you're going or coming. I280 in the bay area is the
>>"Junipero Serra Fwy" from San Jose to San Francisco -- pretty name and
>>road but not descriptive.
Well, I would say there is some of that. The problem is something like
The Shoreline Freeway, er? which shoreline? East, west? South? North?
You are asking in the wrong news groups: ca.driving and ba.transportation
(or maybe you want the politics groups....ha ha ha 8^).
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compata@shell.portal.com (David H Close) writes:
>The problem, it seems to me, is the difference between names which
>evolved from common usage versus names which were invented by bureaucrats.
Yes, this is a problem with more than just freeways. Who was Ames, who was
Moffett, how many people remember Parker? Very few.
>In SoCal, the only freeway which is almost invariably referenced by
>number is the 605, which never evolved a common name and was assigned
>"San Gabriel River Valley Freeway" by bureaucrats immediately upon opening.
>
>far as I am concerned, it will always be the Newport. (Does the San
>Diego Freeway (405) need to go to San Diego to warrant its name?)
Yes. I too grew up in the Gardena/Torrance area and moved up here in 82.
I remember a time when the 405 didn't exist. At that time, the Harbor
Freeway wasn't the 110. If you knew the number, it was a state route 11.
As long as we place bureaucrats and politicians on a pedistal, we deserve
what we get.
Cut off one new.groups at a time.
--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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