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Article #294Re: needs washed
From: Janis Maria Cortese
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1992 01:12
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1992 01:12
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In article <1992Aug5.224441.10212@u.washington.edu> bbeer@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Beer) writes:
>In article <9208052111.AA20375@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> lucas@WATSON.IBM.COM ("Bruce Lucas") writes:
>>As a more-or-less native Midwesterner (northeastern Ohio) born of
>>western-Pennsylvania parents, the construct exemplified by
>>"The car needs washed" sounds natural to my ears. However,
>>I have found that many on the East Coast find this construction
>
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>>New Zealander use it. I would be interested in any comments the
>>readers of this newsgroup might have on the origin and extent of
>>this construct.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Bruce Lucas
>
>I grew up in Iowa City, Iowa, and heard it a lot - mostly from rural people
>and not so much from those who had grown up in Iowa City itself. I remember
>hearing somewhere that it was a Pennsylvania-ism. Hmm. There are lots of
>Amish in Iowa and in Pennsylvania - anyone know if we should blame them? :)
It is, however, a specifically West-PA thang. I grew up in the Greater
Philadelphia Area, and I have never heard that until I got to the Penn
State main campus; it is seen as a Pgh-ism.
>Maybe it is a more general thing than Amish. I speak German and am not
>aware of that kind of construction in German, but I don't really know much
>about the non-standard dialects. In Amana (where there still are many German
>speakers) you do hear some interesting expressions/syntax, such as "Look the
>window and see what it's making outside".
There was a large group of German settlers around Phila., too, but we
don't use it.
Regards,
Janis C.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!noiro.acs.uci.edu!skid.ps.uci.edu!cortese From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) Subject: Re: needs washed Nntp-Posting-Host: skid.ps.uci.edu Message-ID: <2A807C63.28576@noiro.acs.uci.edu> Newsgroups: sci.lang Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 38 Date: 6 Aug 92 01:12:03 GMT References: <9208052111.AA20375@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <1992Aug5.224441.10212@u.washington.edu>