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Article #3026Re: use and meaning of "etang" in French
From: J. Kanze
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 00:00
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cie96sdc@student2.lth.se (Stephane Di Cesare) writes:
|> On 25 Jan 1998 22:52:20 +0100, kanze@gabi-soft.fr (J. Kanze) wrote:
|>
|> >Well, most of them are certainly less deep than any of the alpine
|> >lakes:-). (I'm not sure about the Etang de Berre, though.) My Petit
|> >Robert says "generallement moins vaste, moins profond qu'un lac." (Note
|> >the "generallement".)
|>
|> I think the Etang de Vaccares is actually the second largest lake in
|> France...
|> They are probably not very deep, as they are close to the sea.
|>
|> >Two possibilities (just guessing): one is that this usage might be
|> >regional (southern France), and the other is that the bodies of water in
|> >question are very recent, and originally were only the size of a pond.
|>
|> Being from the area, I don't think it is a regional usage (at least
|> nowadays).
|> Concerning the Etang de Thau, it is artificial, it is a consequence of
|> linking Sete to land under Louis XIV. Sete was an island before. It is
|> in fact the part of the sea which is inside land.
Yes. In the case of coastal "etang", I would probably use the word
lagune in English, but certainly not pond. I've always associated the
word with stagner (English stagnate), which would associate it with
water that wasn't moving: a pond as opposed to a river, but a lagune as
opposed to a sea with tides (except that the Mediteranean doesn't have
tides, at least to speak of).
Le Petit Robert also mentions that it has a "fond etanche".
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