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Article #3113Re: linguistic dogma
From: Jacques Guy
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:16
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:16
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misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes: >>> "The rate of change of a language is a constant"...) >> >> Where did you get this from? > From Rich Alderson (an apparent expert on historical linguistics >who posts frequently to sci.lang and to alt.usage.english). I had >written, "What I recall reading in the book _In Search of the Indo- >Europeans_ is that among recorded ancient languages, Sanskrit and >Latin were closest to the reconstructed original; and that among >modern languages, Lithuanian is closest." He responded, "Point of >order. They have all, *by definition*, diverged to the same >extent." "Dogma" is not the proper word for that. "Bare-faced, shameless lie" is. Amazing. On LINGUIST, last week, there was someone bleating "I have a very simple question: What are we doing wrong to be on the receiving end of items like the following?" The main item had been posted on comp.ai.natlang under the title "An AI fable: Borne and the Wheel (a bit long)" and was a wonderfully written fable about the preposterous dogmas with which linguistics is... yes, *infested*. Real linguistics at any rate, that is, hands-on, monolingual fieldwork, has had me unlearn just about everything I had been taught.
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