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Re: I think languages are obsolete!

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From: Paul J Kriha
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:31
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Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim <Jdibrahim@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Gerry Lintonice wrote:
> > Talking was yesterday.Telepathic communication is the future and the
> > future human brain will be computer-enhanced, that means our future
> > language will be a telepathic binary language.
> >
> > 1100110011001
>
> Anything which is binary i.e. based on duality is a simplification
> needed to:
>
> 1. make meaning by providing contrasts. There is a lot of phenomena in
> life which is binary:

You may find it of some benefit to read up a little on Theory
of Information. You current idea of what is binary is childishly
and painfully naive.

> There are only two sexes women and men
> Gerund v. infinitive
> Dynamic v. stative verbs
> The word "bank" can be changed to "tank" by exchanging sounds.
> You can't understand what "good" means if you don't have the word
> "bad". So even evil is necessary for making meaning.
> There is God (in human mind at least) but his adversary (the devil)
> exists too.
>
> 2. organize and save information in memory for retrieval.

You don't _need_ any binary phenomena[sic] to organize and
save information in memory. I guarantee you even you yourself
today make greater use of analogue encoding of information
than the binary one.

(what? you don't have any pictures on the wall? Your eyes
communicate with your brain in digital?)

> If or when human language becomes binary or digital there will a lot of
> reduction and simplification similar to the way files are zipped or
> compressed.It will lose its power and beauty for the sake of
> mathematical precision and avoidance of ambiguity. In addion it can be
> easily manipulated updated, erased, transfered and interfaced with
> other human beings or machines. Translation and psychology and a couple
> of other disciplines will then be superfluous. Nevertheless, duality
> has always existed.

wow.
pjk

> Regards
> Jamshid
>
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