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Article #3332Re: English river names (was: EU's language policy)
From: Marc Bonnaud
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 00:00
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Machiavelli <keelerad@tcd.ie> wrote: >Marc Bonnaud <mbonnaud@francenet.fr> wrote: >>borton@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (borton scott andrew) wrote: >>>Marc Bonnaud (mbonnaud@francenet.fr) wrote > >> - where I, as a french speaker, make the difference between a >>>: > >> "fleuve " and a "rivi�re", the english-speaking person will >>>: > >> only see a "river" >>>: > >>>: > Kurt> English has many words for moving bodies of water: stream, >>>: > Kurt> brook, creek, rivulet, ... >>> >>>: Of course we too have "torrent", "ruisseau", etc... >>>: but you failed ( by ignorance ) to get my point there >>>: there is a significant difference between rivi�re and fleuve, since >>>: the latter pours into the sea while the former pours into a rivi�re >>>: or a fleuve. A difference which does not exist in english. >>> >>>You're forgetting about "tributary," which pours into a larger river. The >>>difference does indeed exist in English. >>> >>>--scott >>> >> >>No, this is "affluent" in French ; English has definitely no word to >>designate only rivers that pour into the sea. > >Erm, hate to throw a spanner in the works, but effluent is a description of a river that flows into the sea. Oxford dictionary : effluent : streamflowing from larger stream, sewage tank, industrial process , etc. Sorry > It looks like this English word same dictionary : [L (fluo, flux : flow ) ] > was derived in France, you had one chance out of ten for this ; it's generally the contrary >but its got the same meaning. Sorry. looks like you read too fast the *first letter*, sorry > >Machiavelli -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Marc Bonnaud page TAM-TAM : http://PersoWeb.francenet.fr/~mbonnaud courrier : mbonnaud@francenet.fr TAM : Toile d'Araign�e Mondiale ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 11578d,c7f86f0010ea9240 X-Google-Attributes: gid11578d,public X-Google-Thread: 102cce,eac043ec93053a21 X-Google-Attributes: gid102cce,public X-Google-Thread: 1058af,c7f86f0010ea9240 X-Google-Attributes: gid1058af,public X-Google-Thread: 10a20a,eac043ec93053a21 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a20a,public X-Google-Thread: fa448,eac043ec93053a21 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa448,public X-Google-Thread: 102dad,eac043ec93053a21 X-Google-Attributes: gid102dad,public From: Marc Bonnaud <mbonnaud@francenet.fr> Subject: Re: English river names (was: EU's language policy) Date: 1996/02/17 Message-ID: <4g4qoe$bbv@chleuasme.francenet.fr> X-Deja-AN: 139708844 references: <4el8tf$a3v@chleuasme.francenet.fr> <823128131snz@storcomp.demon.co.uk> <4f4uno$96r@kielo.uta.fi> <4f8s0u$5s3@chleuasme.francenet.fr> <kurt.823974013@bavur> <COLIN.96Feb11084150@colina.demon.co.uk> <4fnapn$2as@chleuasme.francenet.fr> <4fns3u$3l6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4fviu8$gpi@chleuasme.francenet.fr> <DMw7zD.J4q@news.tcd.ie> to: keelerad@tcd.ie content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 organization: France Net mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.uu.lang.misc,eunet.politics,soc.culture.europe,alt.politics.europe.misc,talk.politics.european-union x-mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit)