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Article #5085Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:01
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:01
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On Mar 29, 6:30 pm, lackpurity <lackpur...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Elizabeth does use reproaches in her withering denunciations of the > Earl of Oxford. I think she hyperbolizes on that, as the Earl did > gain some credit, and Edmund Spenser pointed this out to the world. > Eddie de Vere lacked sufficient writing talent. Oxfordians just > dismiss all the Anti-Oxfordian evidence as a result of some massive > conspiracy and subsequent coverup. It's up to the sagacity of the > readers. Oxfordians still lack evidence for their case. This is not > to say that Oxfordian fantasies, or even Marlovian fantasies, i.e. of > Peter Farey's ilk, do not appeal to some. Elizabeth is a staunch > Baconian. I don't agree on the missing writing talent, in the early poems by de Vere I find the same breadth while his later lines are more versatile, which I ascribe to the influence of William Shakespeare the actor and congenial collaborator - both your poets. I propose a new idea about the authorship, didn't you notice? And my evidence I find within the plays and poems. I pose you the same question: what does the scene in Titus Andronicus mean where Young Lucius quotes two lines by Horace (which you translated completely wrongly) and calls them his weapon? How can two lines by an ancient poet be a weapon? This makes sense within my interpretation of the play as political allegory. I published my new and fresh interpretations of five plays. If you got evidence against them, show me, and focus on the most important point, as I can't handle five arguments at once.
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