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Article #5105Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:02
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:02
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> > > If there is a subtext in the play The Two Gentlemen > > > of Verona, it may concern the relation between art > > > and power, Julia symbolizing art, Silvia power, > > > Proteus the poet and playwright, and Valentine > > > the one destined by virtue to exert power, Latin > > > valere meaning 'to be worthy, having value, virtue' > > > being present in the name Valentine. Proteus would > > > then symbolize de Vere. Homer tells us about > > > Proteus in book 4 of the Odyssey: an old man > > > (de Vere began writing tragedies at a relatively high > > > age), honest (the bard's motto pronounced in > > > sonnet 105 is "Fair, kind, and true," being true an > > > equivalent of being honest), of infallible lips (the > > > bards claims the same in the sonnets), he sees > > > and knows everything (and so does the playwright > > > in his god-like position as the creator of his plays), > > > he metamorphs into everything that walks on earth, > > > but also into water and divine blazing fire, becomes > > > a lion with a mane, a snake, a panther, liquid water, > > > a tree of a towering crown (while the playwright > > > can assume every guise in his plays), he knows > > > the depths of all seas (he knows the depths of the > > > human nature), his daughter is Eidothea, literally > > > the goddess of pictures (and the bard creates > > > living pictures on the illuminated stage), he knows > > > what happens in the palace (and de Vere knew > > > the court, having been raised in the care of the > > > queen), good or bad (the achievements and > > > crimes of five-hundred years of history of the > > > empire). De Vere matches Valentine with Silvia, > > > and Proteus with Julia, not without pointing out > > > a temporary aberration of Proteus who was > > > seduced by power. De Vere elevates William > > > Shakespeare in the guise of valiant Paris into > > > the rank of a count. And the opening lines of > > > the gory first play Titus Andronicus pose the > > > question of who acceeds the throne directly. > > > Saturninus > > > > Plead my successive title with your swords > > > I am his (the late emperor's) first-born son > > > > Whereupon Bassianus > > > > And suffer not dishonour to approach > > > Th' imperial seat, to virtue consecrate > > > > My claim: Titus Andronicus might be an allegory > > > on five hundred years of British history, naming > > > injustices that were the consequence of unworthy > > > rulers who climbed the throne either by birth-right > > > or by the help of protection. In later plays de Vere > > > learned to convey his message in subtler and more > > > pleasing ways, but he could only do so after he had > > > made his point in all clarity. > > > Titus Andronicus might be a surrealist play avant la lettre, > > a tragic satire, methodical insanity used in describing > > a mad time, the natural order of the human cosmos > > dissolving, held together for appearances by a stern > > logic of violence, five hundred years ending in doom > > > 1086 Domesday Book or Doomsday Book > > 1588 ? Titus Andronicus "This is our doom" > > > Titus Andronicus --- 'builder' of the English empire, > > William the Conquerer and others including Henry VIII > > as military leader > > > Bassianus --- Henry VIII as humanist > > > Saturninus --- Henry VIII as king > > > Lavinia --- Anne Boleyn > > > Lucius --- Elizabeth > > > Young Lucius --- Edward de Vere > > > Marcus Andronicus --- Arthur Golding / Lord Burghley > > > Tamoria, queen of Goths --- Mathilde, widow of the German > > Keiser Heinrich V, imposed as queen of England by her father, > > Saxon king Henry I, in 1127, her arrival in England in 1139 > > the begin of the age of anarchy (civil wars) / Mary Tudor > > "Bloody Mary" supporting the German Keiser Karl V and > > marrying Philipp II of Spain > > > Aaron the Moor --- Black Prince, waged war on France in > > 1369 / Philipp II of Spain, prosecutor of the Moriscos 'Moors' > > and Maranos 'pigs' Jews, turned into a Moor of a Jewish > > name in the fiction of the play, perhaps wearing a sign of > > the Spanish king on the stage > > > The play, an allegory condensing five hundred years of > > English history and focusing on then recent events, was real > > enough to ban the audience and unreal enough to avoid > > censorship. In all the mess of lost reality and upturned human > > relations one thing becomes apparent: Edward de Vere's > > political position. He welcomes the collapse of Karl's Reich, > > indicated by the initial speech of Young Lucius demanding > > the sacrifice of a Goth who must be dismembered before > > being placed on the pyre, symbolizing the breaking apart > > of Karl's empire. He supported the English empire, > > indicated by the final speech of Young Lucius honoring > > Titus Andronicus. And he welcomed the breaking up of > > the Spanish hegemony, indicated by Lucius condemning > > the Moor of a Jewish name, Philipp II as one of his own > > victims ... What appeared to be racism before is now > > a sharp satire used as weapon in defending the Moors > > and Jews against the 'Christian' monster Philipp II, > > bow and arrow of his biting wit, indicated by the two lines > > of Horace written down in Act 4 Scene 2 > > > Integer vitae, scelerisque purus, > > Non eget Mauri jaculis, nec arcu. > > > by Young Lucius and handed over as weapon. A literary > > weapon, the play itself. The promise of a new order is > > made in the two last lines of the play, delivered by > > Queen Elizabeth in the guise of Lucius > > > Then, afterwards, to order well the state, > > That like events never it ruinate. > > What about Shylock? Isn't he evidence for a latent > antisemitism in the bard? > > Bassianus in the play Titus Andronicus represented > Henry VIII as humanist, while we have the Italian > version of Bassianus, namely Bassiano, in the play > The Merchant of Venice, and accordingly Bassiano > proposes a humanist view, for example when he > speaks about the law and religion in Act 3 Scene 2 > > In law, what plea so tainted and corrupt, > But, being season'd with a gracious voice, > Obscures the show of evil? In religion, > What damned error, but some sober brow > Will bless it, and approve it with a beat, > Hiding the grossness with fair ornament? > > When I read the convoluted second sentence I was > baffled by a grammatical pun > > religion, what damned error > > If the sentence is parsed correctly it contains a humanist > view, so I believe that 'Christian' in the play, when used > in a positive sense, means Humanist. Jessica, daughter > of Shylock, converts to Christianism, but really she > remains a Jew, a humanist one. Shylock is sentenced > to loose all his money, but he keeps it and reinstalls > Jessica as his heir; he is also sentenced to become > a Christ, but, we may infer, he remains a Jew, now > a humane one, a humanist ... In the bard's opinion > a truly humanist society has to give equal rights to > women. In the play a woman, Portia, wife of Bassiano > - the two married on their word, no priest and church > involved - turns the play around and solves the dire > conflict by telling Shylock that he is not allowed to shed > one single drop of Christian blood. Now Christian blood > is a nonsense term, Christians and Jews having the > very same blood, human blood, so the word Christian > has the meaning of human, humane, humanist ... > I see a variety of humanist messages enfolded in > the play, in the dialectical way this bard loved so much. Correction: Latin Bassianus and Italian Bassanio are not exactly the same name but close enough. I wanted to confine myself to one single thread, but Melanie Sands opened two more threads, and now I conclude my contribution in all of them. The Stratfordians of the orthodox orthodox bulwark and Oxfordians of the orthodox heretic stronghold are ashamed of Titus Andronicus, while I, a free heretic, not wearing anybody's blinders, rehabilitate the play. It was grossly misunderstood until now, the atrocities taken 1:1 and not recognized as the bard's allegory on the then political situation. Edward de Vere was neither a racist (Moor Aaron) nor an antisemite (Shylock), he defended every religion as long as it was humane, and opposed to every religion that became inhumane. I am already used to the name Edward de Vere going along with the new interpretations of the plays and poems, and think I demonstrated the proper way of proceeding: by reading the plays and daring fresh interpretations in a wider space gained within a couple of weeks only. I won't be able to publish my interpretations on paper, neither with the Bulwark nor the Stronghold, so it is the electronic publication in the Usenet, a further step toward a free global university ... Once again a big Thank You to the Google company. Goethe called reading a highly demanding art. I can read. If somewone wants me to go for yet another play, he or she may tell me.
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