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Article #5112Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:12
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:12
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On Mar 13, 7:20 pm, lackpurity <lackpur...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Farey can't even reach square one with his fantasies. We're still > waiting for him to prove that Marlowe didn't die at Deptford in 1593. > I think it will take more than slanderous pigeonholing for his > fantasies to gain much popularity. We'll see how it goes. It goes like this: reading the plays will bring us further. Here is my interpretation of The Two Gentlemen of Verona, followed by the one of Titus Andronicus: If there is a subtext in the play The Two Gentlemen of Verona, it may concern the relation between art and power, Julia symbolizing art, Silvia power, Proteus the poet and playwright, and Valentine the one destined by virtue to exert power, Latin valere meaning 'to be worthy, having value, virtue' being present in the name Valentine. Proteus would then symbolize de Vere. Homer tells us about Proteus in book 4 of the Odyssey: an old man (de Vere began writing tragedies at a relatively high age), honest (the bard's motto pronounced in sonnet 105 is "Fair, kind, and true," being true an equivalent of being honest), of infallible lips (the bards claims the same in the sonnets), he sees and knows everything (and so does the playwright in his god-like position as the creator of his plays), he metamorphs into everything that walks on earth, but also into water and divine blazing fire, becomes a lion with a mane, a snake, a panther, liquid water, a tree of a towering crown (while the playwright can assume every guise in his plays), he knows the depths of all seas (he knows the depths of the human nature), his daughter is Eidothea, literally the goddess of pictures (and the bard creates living pictures on the illuminated stage), he knows what happens in the palace (and de Vere knew the court, having been raised in the care of the queen), good or bad (the achievements and crimes of five-hundred years of history of the empire). De Vere matches Valentine with Silvia, and Proteus with Julia, not without pointing out a temporary aberration of Proteus who was seduced by power. De Vere elevates William Shakespeare in the guise of valiant Paris into the rank of a count. And the opening lines of the gory first play Titus Andronicus pose the question of who acceeds the throne directly. Saturninus Plead my successive title with your swords I am his (the late emperor's) first-born son Whereupon Bassianus And suffer not dishonour to approach Th' imperial seat, to virtue consecrate My claim: Titus Andronicus might be an allegory on five hundred years of British history, naming injustices that were the consequence of unworthy rulers who climbed the throne either by birth-right or by the help of protection. In later plays de Vere learned to convey his message in subtler and more pleasing ways, but he could only do so after he had made his point in all clarity.
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