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Article #5125Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:13
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:13
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> Seems I must give you a lesson on rhymes. > Edward de Vere's uncle, Henry Howard, was > the inventor of the English or 'Shakespearean' > sonnet whose rhyming scheme goes > > a b a b c d c d e f e f g g > > Sonnet 65 has these rhymes > > a sea > b power > a plea > b flower > c out > d days > c stout > d decays > e alack > f hid > e back > f forbid > g might > g bright > > Now for sonnet 66 > > a cry > b born > a jollity > b foresworn > c misplaced > d strumpeted > c disgraced > d disabled > e Authority > f Skill > e Simplicity > f Ill > g gone > g alone > > There are two special rhymes > > a / a cry / jollity > > d / d strumpeted / disabled > > Dylan could sing them. The first line of sonnet 66 > > Tired of all these, for restful death I cry,-- > > Now Dylan would intone the lament and prolong > cry into something like craaaay, making a real cry > of it, so that it matches jollity by sound and in way > of a semantical contrast > > craaaaay / jollity > > Then he would pronounce disabled something like > disabeled (he does that with another word in order > to make it rhyme, but not even I can remember > everything and give the quote) > > strumpeted / disabeled > > In that light valiant and William are another rhyme, > and one making sense. Did you now look up the > phonetic versions of valiant and William in a good > dictionary? They are very close. Of course of curse of coarse no phonetic rendering of valiant and William, neither from Peter T. Daniels nor from Grooving Peter, so I go for it, considering my Oxford dictionary, as we are dealing here with one of the earls of Oxford. It gives valiant 'vaeljant William 'wiljam stress on vael- and wil- ae in vael- pronounced like a in man; a in -jant and jam- like in ago (years ago), unaccentuated, that is 'vaeliant 'wiljam VAeL-jant WIL-jam everybody can see the alliteration apart from a Peter T. Daniels and Peter Qunce and Peter Grooves, and the pear system or rather quince system is of course of curse of coarse meant to eliminate new ideas, we all know that.
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