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Article #5139Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Mike
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:06
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:06
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On Mar 1, 5:58 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote: > > > Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford > > > > Romeo, in the play Romeo and Juliet, is mentioned > > > for the first time in a question > > > > O, where is Romeo? > > > > a question offering a pun > > > > O, Vere is Romeo! > > > > a pun providing an answer > > > > de Vere, Oxford > > > > Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford who signed his early > > > works EO as in Romeo romEO, the pronounced English > > > initials E and O resembling Italian io meaning I, it's me. > > > The bard mentioned that his name is bound by one letter, > > > which is true for the name, the pun, and the answer > > > > Edward de Vere E...e 12 letters (name) > > > > O, Vere is Romeo O...o 12 letters (pun) > > > > de Vere, Oxford d...d 12 letters (answer) > > > > whereby the binding letters of the name E and pun O > > > yield the initials of the title > > > > Earl of Oxford 12 letters (title) > > > > Name, pun, answer and title contain 12 letters each, > > > accordingly Juliet in the orchard is awaiting Romeo's > > > message at twelve. > > > > On a veiled level of the play, Romeo would symbolize > > > the playwright who was bound to hold back his name > > > and conceal his authorship; Juliet would symbolize > > > the adoring audience, rapt public, and loving Muse > > > who make the poetical torch burn bright; and Paris, > > > who claimed Juliet for his wife, beautiful Juliet, more > > > beautiful than all other girls of Verona including lively > > > Helena - Paris would symbolize William Shakespeare > > > from Statford on Avon who might secretly have been > > > given a modest but lifelong pension for pretending > > > to be the author of those plays and poems, granted > > > by de Vere's relationship, out of whatever sad reason, > > > so that a personal tragedy would underly the tragic > > > love story of the play and make it only the deeper: > > > > For never was a story of more woe > > > Than this of Juliet and Romeo. > > > > The last lines end on oe and eo respectively, eo > > > EO Earl of Oxford, so the bard signed his play, > > > if ever so clandestinely, and although Juliet had > > > argued most reasonably and beautifully: > > > > What's a name! that which we call a rose > > > By any other name would smell as sweet; > > > So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd, > > > Retain that dear perfection which he owes > > > Without that title:--Romeo, doff thy name; > > > And for that name, which is no part of thee, > > > Take all myself. > > > > The bard's name doesn't count, important are > > > his plays and poems, and the public loves them, > > > is all for him to take. > > > > Franz Gnaedinger, Zuerich, February 28, 2010 > > > In the play 'Romeo and Juliet' a quarrelsome character > > by the name of Tybalt seeks trouble, draws against > > Romeo's friend Mercutio, this one also draws, a sword > > fight ensues, Romeo intervenes, but in vain, he makes > > it only worse, Mercutio falls, whereupon Romeo takes > > revenge by killing Tybalt for having murdered his good > > and funny friend. Romeo was not guilty under Verona's > > law, however, his deed prolonged the feud that came > > only to an end with the tragic double death of the 'star- > > crossed' young couple. Edward de Vere, as a young > > man, probably of Romeo's age, inadvertently killed > > an inebriated seventeen-year-old by the name of > > Thomas Brincknel. The judges considered his death > > a suicide and spoke Edward free. The initials of the > > young man who had died, T and B, return as the first > > letters of the syllables Ty and Balt, insinuating further > > parallels between life and play. Edward was declared > > not being guilty, however, the fatal incident, perhaps > > on top of other events, could have been a reason > > for the strict obligation to hide behind a hired living > > pseudonym (which he learned to accept in a playful > > manner, calling himself Will personified, William, > > Will I am, I am Will). While William Shakespeare > > on the stage was applauded, Edward de Vere > > attended his own play among the audience, > > watching the onlookers, how they reacted to the > > fancies of his mind, how the lovely young ladies > > by his side laughed and weeped as his cunningly > > crafted plot unfolded on the stage ... Reading > > the sonnets I come to the conclusion that he > > loved attending his own plays, and his observing > > the reactions of the audience from close up would > > explain the amazing psychological realism of his > > plays, while his way of developing an act may be > > gleaned from Hamlet who added a couple of lines > > to a play and planned to observe the king for every > > faint, obscured and concealed reaction. Romeo > > the bard, Juliet his audience and beloved Muse. > > When Edward de Vere was of Romeo's age he > > may have found a real Muse among a crowded > > audience, Romeo his Juliet, as it were, a young > > lady who turned his rhiming into glorious poetry. > > Act 1 Scene 5, Romeo speaking: > > > O, she doeth teach the torches to burn bright! > > Her beauty hangs upon the cheek of night > > Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear; > > Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear! > > So shows a snowy dove trooping with crows, > > As yonder lady o'er her fellows shows. > > The measure done, I'll watch her place of stand, > > And, touching hers, make blessed my rude hand. > > Did my heart love till now? forswear it, sight! > > For I never saw true beauty till this night. > > > The veiled metaphorical tale of the bard's awakening > > heightens the love story. > > PeterFarey, himself supporting the Marlowe- > Shakespeare connection, gave me a fine advice: > to look out for combinations of Romeo and will. > The first such instance occurs at a signifcant place, > following Juliet's plea that Romeo doff his name > and instead take all of her, whereupon Romeo: Why would Romeo have anything to do with the authorship? > I take thee at thy word; > Call me but love, and I'll be new baptized; > Henceforth I never will be Romeo. Both de Vere and Shakespeare were mystics, so this has no bearing on the authorship. > In other words: I, Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford, > cease being EO romEO Romeo, instead I'll be > new baptized in the name of thy love, my 'nome > de plume' will be Will, William Shakespeare, hired > living pseudonym who shall claim to have written > my plays and poems. I shall publish my works > under his name, he will get all the fame - if only > I can have your love, if only you keep word of > loving me and being all mine, dear Juliet, Muse, > audience This appears to be fantasizing. Baptism doesn't necessarily imply a massive coverup. > Will will fulfil the treasure of thy love > > (sonnet 136), as 'William Shakespeare' I will fulfil > the promise of my work on the wings of your love, > dear Juliet, inspiring Muse, beloved audience, as > 'William Shakespeare' I will fill your heart with sweet > poetry, all the best I can muster as Master William > Shakespeare (while hiding my true identity from > now on, and only give a few well concealed hints > to the ones who can read between my lines).- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There was no massive coverup except in the fertile imaginations of some Anti-Strats. Groatsworth of Wit mentions Shakescene not the Earl of Oxford, nor Eddie de Vere. Michael Martin
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