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On Mar 5, 4:37 am, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:54 am, Peter Groves <metrical...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > This is imbecilic. You are confusing letters and sounds in a manner
> > that would disgrace a schoolboy.
>
> > That is, you are not merely ignorantly opinionated, but ineducable to
> > boot.  Makes sense you'd be an Oxfordian.
>
> 'Letter' also meant phoneme until the end of the 19th
> century. The Roman letters were conceived as phonemes.

No, neither the term nor the concept "phoneme" existed. "Letter" could
mean 'speech sound' -- as is discussed by David Abercrombie in an
article published, oddly enough, in his own Festschrift.

> And as for the connection between 'valiant' and 'William'
> I quote from the reply I just wrote for Peter:

As we must never tire of telling you, repeating something doesn't make
it true.

> * Valiant / William is as good a rhyme as the examples
> * given above, and the alliteration is even of a genetic sort,
> * for William German Wilhelm is composed of will and helmet,
> * will akin to German wollen and Latin velle 'wish', volo 'I wish',
> * in a further meaning 'I decide, order', and valiant coming
> * from valere 'to be strong', in a further meaning 'to have
> * influence, power, importance'
> *
> *  volo 'I wish', also 'I decide, order'
> *
> *  valeo 'I am strong', also 'I have influence, power, importance'
>
> Your reply is typical for a strutting Strat : reproaches and
> ad hominems instead of answers to questions. You can't

Questions? Where did you ask a question?

You have amply demonstrated _already_ to the Shakespeare people that
you don't have the slightest interest in listening to anything anyone
says to you.

> make all those obscure remarks unveil their meaning,
> you worship a demi-god veiled in fog and cloaked in clouds,
> preferring him to an actual and apparently loveworthy human
> being of great merit, as the real William Shakespeare
> emerging from the play Romeo and Juliet in my reading
> that is now one week old, since I found the telling pun
>
>   O, where is Romeo?        O, Vere is Romeo!
>
> last Friday, followed yesterday by
>
>   What, Juliet!      Watch, Juliet!
>
> and the alliteration
>
>   valiant Paris     valiant William
>
> Romeo -- Edward de Vere, playwright
> Juliet -- audience personified, Muse
> Paris -- William Shakespeare of the Globe