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Article #5200Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:24
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:24
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On Mar 3, 12:05 am, "ranjit_math...@yahoo.com" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Ah, so the cottage was occupied not by Shakespeare but by another gent > of the same name, eh? Ha ha. The cottage was occupied by William Shakespeare, director of the Globe and main actor who excelled in the role of his life and still does, far beyond his life on earth, namely in the role of the bard who wrote all those amazing plays and poems, while the actual bard and poet and playwright was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford, who once lived on Avon street, by the way. Here a short version of my interpretation: O, where is Romeo? O, Vere is Romeo! Romeo -- Edward de Vere, playwright Juliet -- audience personified, Muse Paris -- William Shakespeare of the Globe Shakespeare acting as bard, in the role of his life, de Vere hiding behind him, out of whatever reason. Yes, William Shakespeare was a real human being, he had a wife, and he lived in a cottage, and now, with the new connection of Edward de Vere and Romeo, we finally can get some real information about the former half-god in the clouds: William Shakespeare eagerly adopted the bard's plays and made them bloom on the stage, so that the bard praised him as "valiant" and "a flower; in faith, a real flower." Moreover a false accusation dissolves, the one that says the bard lived in a threesome, inspired by sonnet 83, where a lady of two poets is addressed: this lady is the Muse, and her two poets are de Vere, playwright, and Shakespeare, director of the Globe and main actor, both of them 'making' the play in the sense of Greek poieo poiesis poietes, wooing the same lady, the audience personified, Juliet in the play, and this only on one level of a play of many levels, namely the level of the bard reflecting on his fate as poet ... Until last week I believed in the bard from Stratford on Avon, as almost everybody does, loving the language but understanding little, the plays and poems being crammed full of remarks that elude me completely, so last week I tried a new approach, de Vere, first reading Hamlet, then Romeo and Juliet, and bingo, there is a pun easily plucked the first time Romeo is mentioned. This happened last Friday, not yet one week ago, and already it makes the play resound. It's this what I expect from a good theory of literature: to make the obscure passages of a work speak again.
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