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Article #5203Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Harlan Messinger
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:57
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:57
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Panu wrote: > On Mar 1, 12:10 am, Harlan Messinger > <hm.usenetremovert...@gavelcade.com> wrote: >> Panu wrote: >>> On Feb 28, 9:01 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> On Feb 28, 12:00 pm, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Feb 28, 5:00 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>> On Feb 28, 9:55 am, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 3:47 pm, "Peter Farey" <pete...@rey.prestel.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Panu" wrote: >>>>>>>>> Franz Gnaedinger wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford >>>>>>>>> Who the hell is interested in Shakespeare anyway? >>>>>>>> Rather more than those who are interested in Na'vi or Dnghe I suspect? >>>>>>> I'm not talking about quantity, but quality. Besides, Shakespeare >>>>>>> would not interest anyone if he wasn't so heavily subsidized. >>>>>> What _are_ you talking about? (Both points.) >>>>> You know perfectly well that Shakespeare is just a minor, obscure >>>>> dramatist from the dark dungeons of literary history writing in an >>>>> English which is only partly intelligible to the speakers of the >>>>> modern language. If he weren't force-fed to millions of poor >>>>> schoolchildren in that benighted part of the world inhabited by >>>>> monolingual speakers of English, he would already have been consigned, >>>>> if not to merciful oblivion, so at least to the limbo that is the fate >>>>> of all linguistically and culturally uninteresting writers meriting >>>>> only second-rate academic interest.- >>>> And of the crowds of Elizabethan playwrights, why is he the only one >>>> whose works are regularly produced, even though they received no >>>> special attention during his lifetime? >>> You tell me. The Shakespeare cult has been around for so long that it >>> is self-sustaining by now. Everybody sees it as their duty to praise >>> the Emperor's new clothes. >> This is like the line, "The Odyssey wasn't written by Homer but by >> another man of that name." You're arguing that Shakespeare's work isn't >> beloved, and that the people who love his work are a "cult" and >> therefore something different. > > Most people who profess to "love" him were taught, indoctrinated, > inculcated to do so. They were initiated to the cult at school. As I > was brought up outside the cult community, i.e. the English-speaking > world, I am able to see Shakespeare for what he is, i.e. the run-of- > the-mill author of moderately successful plays, who, because of a > quirk of literary history, was canonized into a secular saint. Of > course, his genre pieces are probably slightly above average, but I > staunchly refuse to join the cult. Or you could just be a person with an opinion who assumes arrogantly that anyone else under the same circumstances would agree with him.
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