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Article #5245Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:20
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:20
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On Feb 28, 2:12 pm, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 28, 9:01 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 28, 12:00 pm, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 28, 5:00 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 28, 9:55 am, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 28, 3:47 pm, "Peter Farey" <pete...@rey.prestel.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > "Panu" wrote: > > > > > > > > Franz Gnaedinger wrote: > > > > > > > > > Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford > > > > > > > > Who the hell is interested in Shakespeare anyway? > > > > > > > Rather more than those who are interested in Na'vi or Dnghe I suspect? > > > > > > I'm not talking about quantity, but quality. Besides, Shakespeare > > > > > would not interest anyone if he wasn't so heavily subsidized. > > > > > What _are_ you talking about? (Both points.) > > > > You know perfectly well that Shakespeare is just a minor, obscure > > > dramatist from the dark dungeons of literary history writing in an > > > English which is only partly intelligible to the speakers of the > > > modern language. If he weren't force-fed to millions of poor > > > schoolchildren in that benighted part of the world inhabited by > > > monolingual speakers of English, he would already have been consigned, > > > if not to merciful oblivion, so at least to the limbo that is the fate > > > of all linguistically and culturally uninteresting writers meriting > > > only second-rate academic interest.- > > > And of the crowds of Elizabethan playwrights, why is he the only one > > whose works are regularly produced, even though they received no > > special attention during his lifetime? > > You tell me. The Shakespeare cult has been around for so long that it > is self-sustaining by now. Everybody sees it as their duty to praise > the Emperor's new clothes. You don't seem to know much about Shakespeare ... he was admired by Samuel Johnson; bizarre abridgments of the plays were produced in Johnson's time, notably by David Garrick; in subsequent decades, the tragedies were provided with happy endings; and one Mr. Bowdler removed anything that might be considered salacious. The Booths didn't perform what today we recognize as Shakespeare's texts. Shakespeare as we know it is a phenomenon of the mid to late 20th century. > > Why is he the one who so thrilled the luminaries of the German > > Enlightenment? > > Even McPherson's execrable fake "Ossian" thrilled contemporary > luminaries. Today, nobody touches "Ossian", while many of those > luminaries, such as Goethe, are still remembered. Literary history > certainly knows many example of modest or mediocre works that have > inspired vastly superior writing.- Did Lessing translate Ossian?
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