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Re: GTTM and poetry

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From: Paul Hagstrom
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1992 21:31
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In article <1992Oct31.121250.44277@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu  
writes:
> The first volume in the series _Phonetics and Phonology_ would be quite
> useful for this area: _Phonetics and Phonology Vol. 1: Rhythm and
> Meter_ edited by Paul Kiparsky and Gilbert Youmans, Academic Press,
> 1989.  It contains a useful introduction to the field, a paper by
> Jackendoff "A Comparison of Rhythmic Structures in Music and Language"
> and I personally think Bruce Hayes's "The Prosodic Hierarchy in Meter"
> is the most significant contribution to prosody in a long time.

Thank you very much for the quick response.. I do already have the Kiparsky &  
Youmans ed. (1989) (which, I agree, is quite impressive), and perhaps I should  
be a little bit more specific about what I'm looking for.  What I'm most  
interested in is the development of a theory of (poetic) metrics in terms of  
GTTM (which is what Lerdahl and Halle (1991) were sketching).  One lead that I  
have is that they cite Cureton, R. (as being in press)--has this made it to  
press yet?  Most of the things that I have come across which are pre-1991  
relate GTTM and Liberman/Prince-type grids for phonology, rather than attempts  
to look at prosody.

It probably is too new, and there probably isn't anything else to look at, but  
Lerdahl and Halle state that they have a pretty good idea what the rules in the  
new system would look like, but don't have the space to elaborate.. so I was  
HOPING that they would have published some of their ideas somewhere else, but I  
suspect that I may be hoping for too much..
--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
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