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Article #5303Re: pronunciation of Latin
From: Gian Carlo Macchi
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:00
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In article <1997Feb6.151657.4384@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu>, Grzegorz Kondrak <kondrak@cs.toronto.edu> says... >Alfredo Moscianese <alfredo@anteo.it> writes: >>b) the great majority of non-Central Italians follow their regional >>pronunciation of <e> and <o>, not only when speaking dialect but also >>when speaking strictly standard Italian >Does it mean that a student of Italian doesn't have to worry about two >e's and two o's ? Difficult question. Anyway note that Italians, which are used to very different regional pronunciations of stressed e's and o's (and, by the way, of s's and z's, since we also have two s's and two z's) are able to understand words, no matter how they are pronounced. Furthermore, since the rythm of a foreigner sounds (with exceptions) "strange", unusual pronuciation of e's and o's is considered the rule (of his/her "virtual" dialect, i.e. his/her mother tongue). So probably the correct answer to your question is: pronounce tonic e's and o's as they sounds right to you (and use, if wre want, two e's and two o's); you can always change the pronunciation. By the way, here were I live (near Milan) I cannot pronounce a lot of words with their "correct" Tuscan pronunciation; I could, of course, but due to my northern rythm with Bergamask inflections, they could sound ridicoulus. >Is there any dialect that uses just one phoneme for both? I've never heard such a dialect (perhaps somebody can help): however note that, at present, also dialects are influenced by Italian (often horrible) spoken by radio and TV. Ciao. Gian Carlo Macchi macchi@scn.de
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11289b,551beaee80785e30 X-Google-Attributes: gid11289b,public X-Google-Thread: 10a20a,551beaee80785e30 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a20a,public X-Google-Thread: 105352,62c38b0c3db28d6c X-Google-Attributes: gid105352,public From: macchi@marina.scn.de (Gian Carlo Macchi) Subject: Re: pronunciation of Latin Date: 1997/02/10 Message-ID: <5dml1j$1a6@news.fth.sbs.de> X-Deja-AN: 217756339 references: <587ugn$o0u@nimble.mta.ca> <5892mm$hst@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> <58a4be$sk9@nimble.mta.ca> <58fsns$emr@news.enterprise.net> <58lblq$5tt@news1.io.org> <32EDD073.5691@anteo.it> <E4q6H7.HAw@nonexistent.com> <32EF84CC.56ED@netvision.net.il> <5d42in$r1e@news.fth.sbs.de> <32F6385C.6584@netvision.net.il> <32fcb2e0.87378392@news.pi.net> <32FA1194.4912@anteo.it> <1997Feb6.151657.4384@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> content-type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII organization: Italtel spa mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: sci.lang,sci.classics,humanities.classics