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"LEE Sau Dan" <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
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> >>>>> "Dylan" == Dylan Sung <dylanwhs.tsktsktsk@pacific.net.hk> writes:
>
>     Dylan> The following characters found in Big5 are single
>     Dylan> characters, I think they are recent inventions too,
>     Dylan> indicating various quantities of measure
>
> I  can't see what  you wrote.   Your news  reader doesn't  specify the
> charset to  be Big5.  Consider using a  more standards-conformant news
> reader than
>          X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000
> This reader is well known  to be insecure, bugful, virus-prone and not
> conformant to Internet and USENET standards.

You've been sending in UTF-7 for a while now, and unfortunately, OE cannot
converted the characters properly on send.

>
>
>     Dylan> ? gallon - jia-lun
>
>     Dylan> This character is composed of jia ? and lun ? where the
>     Dylan> former is above the latter.
>
> I've never seen this in Chinese.  Maybe, the Japanese invented it?

Er, the characters were in Big5, so they're probably Taiwanese.

>
> Anyway, with the  move to the metric system, this  term is falling out
> of use.
>
>
>     Dylan> ? kilowatt - qian-wa
>
>     Dylan> This character is composed of (1000) qian �d and wa �� but
>     Dylan> for stylistic reasons, the former character is to the right
>     Dylan> of the latter character, and the lower portion of the
>     Dylan> latter character is extended below the first character.
>
> Again, never seen it in Chinese text.  Should be a Japanese-only
character.
>
>
>     Dylan> Others are ?????? which are various quantities of
>     Dylan> grams.
>
> Yeah.  Japanese inventions.

But why would they be in Big5? I don't see the point, when I don't find them
in JIS.


>
>
>     Dylan> Another is new character is ? millimeter formed with mi ?
>     Dylan> (meter) and li ? (milli-)
>
> Seldom seen.  Chinese texts usually use ??.
>
>
>     Dylan> Where are the syllable boundaries represented when each are
>     Dylan> composite characters that fills the space of one character?
>
> These aren't Chinese character, but Japanese ones.  I doubt you'd find
> them in any Chinese dictionary.
>
>
> The only one poly-syllabic character that I can find in Chinese
dictionaries
> is +----
>    | ? |
>    +----
>
> It  is  meant to  be  pronounced  as  <tu2shu1guan3> ???.   It  was
> invented during the early 20th century, when some "scholars" wanted to
> reform the Chinese script by following the Japanese fashion.  However,
> other than  being listed in many Chinese  dictionaries, this character
> is not used in Chinese texts.
>
>


Qianwa, or kilowatt I found in a modern Chinese dictionary, so may be a
Chinese character rather than a japanese creation. Again, the question is,
"is the syllable boundary still defined by the character, when there are
characters which have two or more syllables?"

Dyl.