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Article #5373Re: "invention" of silent reading (McLuhan)
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:55
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:55
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LEE Sau Dan wrote: > > >>>>> "Peter" == Peter T Daniels <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> writes: > > Peter> Indicating _every_ syllable boundary provides no more > Peter> information than indicating _no_ syllable boundary. It > Peter> still doesn't help you identify the words, phrases, and > Peter> clauses. > >> It does, as in German Verb-ending vs. Ver'bendung, > >> be'inhaltend vs. bein-haltend. The compounds words would > >> become easier to comprehend when written with clearer > >> indication of the composition. (I'm always complaining that > >> the Germans don't spell the glottal stop that they insert > >> between syllable boundaries when the next starts a new > >> morpheme. Yiddish, by contrast does use the aleph to indicate > >> the glottal stop.) > > Peter> We're talking about Chinese, which indicates _every_ > Peter> syllable boundary, providing no information about word, > Peter> phrase, or clause boundaries. > > Indicating syllable boundary (Chinese) does provide more useful hints > than not marking syllable boundary nor word boundary (Thai). The amount of information added, in both cases, is zero, if ALL or NO boundaries are marked. The difference between Chinese and Thai is that Thai syllables routinely involve more than one character, but Chinese syllables almost always map to a single character each. -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a20a,102ef6035d969ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a20a,public X-Google-Thread: 113168,102ef6035d969ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid113168,public X-Google-Thread: 105f96,102ef6035d969ce6 X-Google-Attributes: gid105f96,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-02 05:55:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3FF57835.291@worldnet.att.net> From: "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.lang,humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare,rec.arts.books Subject: Re: "invention" of silent reading (McLuhan) References: <20031223183604.97721.qmail@web60108.mail.yahoo.com> <bg0Gb.381926$655.82315215@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <lyn09imx25.fsf@circe.aeaea> <bsc83f$bqund$1@ID-114100.news.uni-berlin.de> <3FE9ECDB.2DAC@worldnet.att.net> <m3vfnzpd19.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> <3FF16F87.738B@worldnet.att.net> <m3fzf2xqac.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> <3FF1F303.6CC@worldnet.att.net> <m3smiyv7xy.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:55:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.75.154.248 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1073051702 12.75.154.248 (Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:55:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:55:02 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet