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Article #5394Re: "invention" of silent reading (McLuhan)
From: Michael Farris
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:14
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:14
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qinjingyou@yahoo.com (djinn) wrote in message news:<5a546924.0312261234.2e3221b6@posting.google.com>... > "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > > Maybe those are readers for learners? Thai writes whole phrases and > > clauses closed up (but Michael Farris just said that the breaks _don't_ > > necessarily correspond to phrase or clause boundaries, which seems weird > > to me). > > can't say for Thai, but in Khmer the breaks do seem to correspond to > phrases. There aren't normally breaks between words. People definitely > do read silently. Well to be perfectly clear, breaks in Thai texts often do correspond to clause breaks but also often enough, for printing reasons, a break needs to be made elsewhere in which case the break is a little random, I was working on pronouncing a short text with a native and when he read it out loud he was grouping elements together rather differently than the breaks in the printed text suggested. Also sometimes breaks seem to be put in on conventional grounds that don't necessarily correspond to phrase breaks, the reduplication sign seems to always be followed by a break even though the reduplicated element may not be at the end of a phrase and lae: (and) is often preceded by a break. -michael farris
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