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3 total messages Started by David Mark Wed, 05 Jul 1995 00:00
Are 'spatial relations' Universals?
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Author: David Mark
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 00:00
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After years of working with spatial relations, through analysis of natural
language, through human subjects experiments, and through formal mathematical
methods, I have begun to suspect that there may be a rather small set of
'basic' or 'focal' spatial relations that are human universals.  These
might be innate, but most likely arise out of the experience that an
individual has with the world through their body and senses.  (Lakoff's
"Experiential Realism".)   My guess is that the situation is rather like
that for color perception, reasoning, and naming.  There, the salient
or focal colors seem to be based on retinal sensitivity.  Then, a language
may name some of these, or most, with basic names, group several under
a single term, etc. (Berlin and Kay.)  But whatever the grouping, the
same physiologically-based focal colors are given as 'best examples'
(prototypes) for any named categories.  Also, for color names, it appears
that theses colors, which neither exist in the external world in a meaningful
sense, nor which are arbitrary labels and boundaries in some continuum, are 
named in about the same hierarchical sequence.  The possibly-universal basic
spatial relations seem to be closely related to Lakoff and Johnson's 
Image-schemata, singly or in combination.  The CONTAINER schema gives
rise to "in". perhaps the most basic spatial relation.  "Outside" is
derived from "in" by negation.  And so on.

Does anyone out there in net-land know of any specific work on the possible
universality of basic spatial relations, on their formal recognition
or cognitive confirmation, or their experiential basis, on their relation to
Image-schemata, etc.?  Or have any nice counter-examples to my explicit and
implicit claims regarding spatial relations, above?

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Re: Are 'spatial relations' Universals?
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Author: Harlan Messinger
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 00:00
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An aspect of the spatial relations question that has interested me is the 
demonstrative and related concepts. English has "this" versus "that", 
though this/that/yon has existed. In other languages:

   French: ceci/cela = this/that
   Chinese: zhei/nei = this/that
   Spanish: este/ese/aquel = this/that one nearby/that one yonder
   Japanese: kono/sono/ano = this/that one nearby/that one yonder

Similarly for here/there or here/there close by/there far away:

   French: ici/la`
   Chinse: zhe/na
   Spanish: aqui'/ai'/alli' (but aca'/alla')
   (I don't know the Japanese)

What other variations exist?

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Re: Are 'spatial relations' Universals?
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Author: Anna Mazzoldi
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 00:00
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sci.lang,sci.cognitive,bit.listserv.geograph,sci.anthropology:
 gusty@clark.net (Harlan Messinger) wrote:

> An aspect of the spatial relations question that has interested me is the 
> demonstrative and related concepts. English has "this" versus "that", 
> though this/that/yon has existed. In other languages:

[examples deleted]

> What other variations exist?

Italian:

questo (or) questo qui = this (close to the speaker)
codesto (or) quello li' = that (close to the listener)
quello (or) quello la' = that (far from both speaker and listener)

The expression after the (or) is more colloquial, and not really
"standard" grammar at all.

These days, "codesto" is not really used (except in literarure,
grammar books and some regional dialects).

My 10 lire (are they still making those coins?)

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Anna Mazzoldi
mazzoldi@iol.ie
Dublin, Ireland
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