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Article #241VIWB (The Virtual Institute of "Wet" Biology)
From: Mor Naor
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:00
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--------------5E89CDD0D2C03C66F7698513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Virtual Institute of "Wet" Biology ============================= The Problem: ------------------ Many scientists, especially in teaching colleges, have little time for research, many have enough time to develop small projects often alone or with (B.Sc. or M.Sc.) students. These projects many time do not amount to publications nor to achieving grants or substantial funding in today's competitive grant environment. The Solution: ----------------- The virtual institute of "wet" biology would offer such scientists several avenues to broaden the scope of their research: 1. By joining forces with many other scientists of the same type and nature to a much bigger effort. 2. By joining a leading group in the field together with few other scientists. 3. By forming a multinational group of joint effort. 4. By joining a group of reagents sharing: Proteins, Enzymes, Antibodies, Plasmids, cells chemicals in a specific field of research. 5. By joining a multi-talent groups working on the same problems from different experimental approaches. 6: provide technical help and consulting services from established group to "start-up" (research groups). Collaborative efforts: --------------------------- The VIWB would have to face several problems that collaborative research projects face. 1. The problem of secrecy 2. Assuring continuity 3. Authorship 4. Funding 5. Institutional requirements. 6. Contact and Technology for Meeting collaborator. 7. Propariety rights. While the VIWB think the members of each projects should agree on the solutions to each of these problems, the VIWB and IB would help with the technical aspects of communications (forming news groups, mailing lists, rooms in bioMOO or chat tools etc.), as well as with helping contact the important publishers and the academic institutions to negotiate solutions that would meet all requirements or find creative solutions that would be accepted. Frame work: ----------------- The VIWB would start by accepting scientists which have started already working in small scale scientific activities, and big groups that have started preliminary works. We suggest that each scientist would arrange an official OK from his Institute to his joining the project; including the funding for the first physical meeting of the scientific core (this could and should be joint with an international meeting in the field). Prior to the meeting the VIWB would help and instruct the members to a virtual conference to discuss some of the most burning problems. The members of the project or representatives of their institutes would then sign an agreement that settle the collaborative methods and solutions, which should include full disclosure and full sharing of reagents and information on reagents, and results(?). The VIWB and IB are not to be parts in the agreement (your opinion please!) The No Projects No Institute Reality ====================================== I urge the IB members to suggest projects (hopefully some which you are a part of, or if you have talked to the guy whose hands were in the buffers): If it is OK with you all that this would not be done in open forum, so that people could disclose information on they projects freely, I could start a DB of the projects and then come up with a non disclosing list of project descriptions (short) and E-mails of the contact person. If you do E-mail me I promise to stay totally secret, but do write me the following: 1. Field of biology 2. Keywords 3. Your name and e-mail 4. Short non-secret description. 5. Your expertise 6. Any other information you think is needed to realize this project is a good VIWB project. One spark could start a fire: ----------------------------- - developing tools that may one day lead to polysachharide automated sequencing, - collaboration between protein epitope mapping lab, phage display lab, monoclonal antibodies lab, and structural lab. - collaboration between crystallization / crystal-growth labs and phage display labs. - Labs working on the mutagenesis of a certain protein (your ideas for proteins please): database of unpublishables mutants - mutants of no interest I created, i.e. with no change in biological activities. you all have lots of them, and they make a beautiful story as a group only. more projects on PCR and glycobiology are on the way, more coming every day. @ Ofer Markman, September 1997 ========================================================= Ofer Markman, VIWB coordinator Interrnet biologists http://emile-21.com/NetBio/welcome.html MASDA's http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7085 VIWB Homepage: http://bio.md.huji.ac.il/~markman/index1.html Ofer's home page: http://bio.md.huji.ac.il/~markman/index2.html markman@gene.md.huji.ac.il --------------5E89CDD0D2C03C66F7698513 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> The Virtual Institute of "Wet" Biology <BR>============================= <BR>The Problem: <BR>------------------ <BR>Many scientists, especially in teaching colleges, have little <BR>time for research, many have enough time to develop small projects often <BR>alone or with (B.Sc. or M.Sc.) students. These projects many time do <BR>not amount to publications nor to achieving grants or substantial <BR>funding in today's competitive grant environment. <P>The Solution: <BR>----------------- <BR>The virtual institute of "wet" biology would offer such <BR>scientists several avenues to broaden the scope of their research: <BR>1. By joining forces with many other scientists of the same type and <BR>nature to a much bigger effort. <BR>2. By joining a leading group in the field together with few other <BR>scientists. <BR>3. By forming a multinational group of joint effort. <BR>4. By joining a group of reagents sharing: Proteins, Enzymes, <BR>Antibodies, Plasmids, cells chemicals in a specific field of research. <BR>5. By joining a multi-talent groups working on the same problems from <BR>different experimental approaches. <BR>6: provide technical help and consulting services from established group <BR>to "start-up" (research groups). <P>Collaborative efforts: <BR>--------------------------- <BR>The VIWB would have to face several problems that <BR>collaborative research projects face. 1. The problem of secrecy 2. <BR>Assuring continuity 3. Authorship 4. Funding 5. Institutional <BR>requirements. 6. Contact and Technology for Meeting collaborator. 7. <BR>Propariety rights. While the VIWB think the members of each projects <BR>should agree on the solutions to each of these problems, the VIWB and IB <BR>would help with the technical aspects of communications (forming news <BR>groups, mailing lists, rooms in bioMOO or chat tools etc.), as well as <BR>with helping contact the important publishers and the academic <BR>institutions to negotiate solutions that would meet all requirements or <BR>find creative solutions that would be accepted. <P>Frame work: <BR>----------------- <BR>The VIWB would start by accepting scientists which have started already <BR>working in small scale scientific activities, and big groups that have <BR>started preliminary works. We suggest that each scientist would arrange <BR>an official OK from his Institute to his joining the project; including <BR>the funding for the first physical meeting of the scientific core (this <BR>could and should be joint with an international meeting in the field). <P>Prior to the meeting the VIWB would help and instruct the <BR>members to a virtual conference to discuss some of the most burning <BR>problems. <P>The members of the project or representatives of their <BR>institutes would then sign an agreement that settle the collaborative <BR>methods and solutions, which should include full disclosure and full <BR>sharing of reagents and information on reagents, and results(?). The <BR>VIWB and IB are not to be parts in the agreement (your opinion please!) <P>The No Projects No Institute Reality <BR>====================================== <BR>I urge the IB members to suggest projects (hopefully some which you are <BR>a part of, or if you have talked to the guy whose hands were in the <BR>buffers): If it is OK with you all that this would not be done in open <BR>forum, so that people could disclose information on they projects <BR>freely, I could start a DB of the projects and then come up with a non <BR>disclosing list of project descriptions (short) and E-mails of the <BR>contact person. If you do E-mail me I promise to stay totally secret, <BR>but do write me the following: <BR>1. Field of biology <BR>2. Keywords <BR>3. Your name and e-mail <BR>4. Short non-secret description. <BR>5. Your expertise <BR>6. Any other information you think is needed to realize this project is <BR>a good VIWB project. <P>One spark could start a fire: <BR>----------------------------- <BR>- developing tools that may one day lead to <BR>polysachharide automated sequencing, <BR>- collaboration between protein epitope mapping lab, phage <BR>display lab, monoclonal antibodies lab, and structural lab. <BR>- collaboration between crystallization / crystal-growth <BR>labs and phage display labs. <BR>- Labs working on the mutagenesis of a certain protein (your <BR>ideas for proteins please): database of unpublishables mutants - mutants of <BR>no interest I created, i.e. with no change in biological activities. you all <P>have lots of them, and they make a beautiful story as a group only. <BR>more projects on PCR and glycobiology are on the way, more coming every <BR>day. <BR> <P>@ Ofer Markman, September 1997 <BR>========================================================= <P>Ofer Markman, VIWB coordinator <BR><A HREF="http://emile-21.com/NetBio/welcome.html">Interrnet biologists http://emile-21.com/NetBio/welcome.html</A> <BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7085">MASDA's http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7085</A> <BR><A HREF="http://bio.md.huji.ac.il/~markman/index1.html">VIWB Homepage: http://bio.md.huji.ac.il/~markman/index1.html</A> <BR><A HREF="http://bio.md.huji.ac.il/~markman/index2.html">Ofer's home page: http://bio.md.huji.ac.il/~markman/index2.html </A> <P>markman@gene.md.huji.ac.il</HTML> --------------5E89CDD0D2C03C66F7698513--
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113bb3,29474b86bf6ed0a2,start X-Google-Attributes: gid113bb3,public X-Google-Thread: f6a65,29474b86bf6ed0a2,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf6a65,public X-Google-Thread: ff2c4,29474b86bf6ed0a2,start X-Google-Attributes: gidff2c4,public X-Google-Thread: 105b48,29474b86bf6ed0a2,start X-Google-Attributes: gid105b48,public X-Google-Thread: fa6b6,29474b86bf6ed0a2,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfa6b6,public From: Mor Naor <mor@ace.md.huji.ac.il> Subject: VIWB (The Virtual Institute of "Wet" Biology) Date: 1997/10/14 Message-ID: <34432E2D.F2F80CF8@ace.md.huji.ac.il> X-Deja-AN: 280307095 To: Simon Greenberg <simong@gene.md.huji.ac.il>, markman@gene.md.huji.ac.il Organization: HUJI Newsgroups: sci.life-extension,,sci.med,,bionet.immunology,bionet.software,bionet.microbiology