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Started by Doug Skrecky
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
25'th update on fly longevity experiments
Author: Doug Skrecky
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
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This is the 25'th update on my fly longevity experiments. Runs #19 and
#20 investigated ways and means for blocking short-term glycerol induced
"metabolic" toxicity. In place of the water normally used in these
experiments, a 1:2 mixture of glycerin (glycerol) and water is used. This
is quite dehydrating, so I expected the flies to die of dehydration after
a short period, which is what happened.
In run #19 good results were obtained by a grape proanthocyanidin
mixture called leucoselect. The glycerol induced increase in mortality
evident at the census on Day 5, 9, and 12 was completely reversed by
leucoselect, so that survival rates were similar to a control bottle
which used water in place of the glycerol mixture.
Please note that all bottles included taurine, as a non-toxic
larvicide, so as to avoid having to regularly change the fly food.
Benzoate, and citric acid were also included to help eliminate pathogen
growth on the 4-24 fly food, which itself already includes a not
completely effective mold inhibitor.
RUN #19 Percent Survival on Day
5 9 12 17 20 25 32 37 43 55 60
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water cntl 97% 91% 77% 66% 54% 49% 37% 31% 14% 6% 3%
glycerol 1:2 cntl 62 29 10 0 - - - - - - -
+aloe vera 450 mg 81 52 43 5 0 - - - - - -
+lavendar 300 mg 73 40 20 0 - - - - - - -
+leucoselect 50 mg 91 87 83 30 4 0 - - - - -
+oleuropein 50 mg 57 20 5 0 - - - - - - -
I was so impressed with the results with leucoselect that the glycerol
experiment was immediately repeated. I also tested the effect of a higher
dosage of leucoselect, as well as some related chemicals. For some reason
the day 12 results were not quite as good, possibly because the flies
used were a little older to start with in this run. However the higher
100 mg dosage of Leucoselect offered survival rates not significantly
different from the water control on the day 4, and day 7 census.
RUN #20 Percent Survival on Day
4 7 12 19 26 30
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water cntl 100% 86% 79% 50% 21% 7%
glycerol 1:2 cntl 91 27 9 0 - -
+leucoselect 50 mg 87 67 40 0 - -
+leucoselect 100 mg 100 82 27 0 - -
+resveratrol 50 mg 95 70 40 0 - -
+pycnogenol 50 mg 93 60 33 0 - -
+green tea extract 75 mg 95 70 35 0 - -
It looks like a sufficiently high dosage of the grape extract
leucoselect can eliminate glycerol induced increases in mortality rates,
at least in the short term. I suspect quite a few other antioxidant
mixtures would have similar effects if a high enough dosage were to be
used.
The metabolic toxicity of glycerol investigated here may have little to
do with the toxic effects induced by the concentrated glycerol solutions
used in cryopreservation. These are administered at a lower temperature,
where metabolism is greatly reduced, so leucoselect might or might not
have any beneficial effect in this case.
In cryopreservation the major toxic effect of glycerol is known to be
osmotic, since glycerol only slowly passes through cellular membranes.
This feature renders glycerol of limited use for whole organ
cryopreservation, which requires cryoprotectants possessing much greater
permeability, so that organs can be protected from freezing injury in an
acceptible time frame.
Next I'll try to block the metabolic toxicity of alcohol.
Re: 25'th update on fly longevity experiments
Author: Pinneo
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
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Second the thank-you for posting your research results!
Re: 25'th update on fly longevity experiments
Author: Mark Ferguson
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
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Doug Skrecky wrote: <snip everything> Talk about CRUEL!
Re: 25'th update on fly longevity experiments
Author: Aristotle Jones
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:00
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Doug,
This is both a response to the poster below, and to the person last Xmas
who started the thread about "why waste everybody's time with these
worthless fly postings...", but mostly it's a *thank you* for the
research
abstracts you send us all year.
<*>aj
THE ARENA
"IT IS NOT THE CRITIC WHO COUNTS;
NOT THE MAN WHO POINTS OUT HOW THE STRONG MAN STUMBLES,
OR WHERE THE DOER OF DEEDS COULD HAVE DONE THEM BETTER.
THE CREDIT BELONGS TO THE MAN WHO IS ACTUALLY IN THE ARENA,
WHOSE FACE IS MARRED BY DUST AND SWEAT AND BLOOD;
WHO STRIVES VALIANTLY;
WHO ERRS, AND COMES SHORT AGAIN AND AGAIN,
BECAUSE THERE IS NO EFFORT WITHOUT ERROR AND SHORTCOMING'
BUT WHO DOES ACTUALLY STRIVE TO DO THE DEEDS'
WHO KNOWS THE GREAT ENTHUSIASMS, THE GREAT DEVOTIONS;
WHO SPENDS HIMSELF IN A WORTHY CAUSE;
WHO AT BEST KNOWS IN THE END THE TRIUMPH OF HIGH ACHIEVEMENT,
AND WHO AT THE WORST, IF HE FAILS, AT LEAST FAILS WHILE DARING
GREATLY,
SO THAT HIS PLACE SHALL NEVER BE WITH THOSE COLD AND TIMID SOULS
WHO KNOW NEITHER VICTORY NOR DEFEAT."
THEODORE ROOSEVELT, 1910
Mark Ferguson wrote:
> Doug Skrecky wrote:
>
> <snip everything>
>
> Talk about CRUEL!
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