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Article #1024Re: Ferdinand de Saussure
From: LudovicoVan
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:50
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:50
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On 28 Mar, 15:42, "Tron" <tronf...@frizurf.no> wrote: > Hi, > > "Newberry" <newberr...@gmail.com> skrev i meldingnews:cc5d5507-7fa0-44da-be55-98f994f0d447@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com... > > > Hi, unlike in logic where we have the dichotomy signifier - referent, > > Ferdinand de Saussure aparently proposed a trichotomy > > > signifier - signfified - referent > > > where the signfied is the mental image of the referent - the actual > > physical object. Where can I read more about this? > > That was a very foreshortened version of the historyof semiotics. > FdS actually proposed the two-part - dyadic - model you refer to initially. > The three-part - triadic - model was suggested by C.S. Peirce. > > Dragndrop your three key words (correctly spelled) into google, > that shold give you oodles of hits. > > I thought that the so-called Ogden's triangle of word, concept and object > was the standard linguistic model these days: Not of linguistics, rather of philosophy of language on a side, and semiotics (or semiology, as we tend to say in Europe) on the other. De Saussure is the father of linguistics: something like, the study of language as spoken by people and groups of people across space and time. > There is a dog, and our > concept of doggity, and then various words for that concept, like "dog, > "hound", "bitch"... "hund", "chien", "canis".... > > Which one is it logic lacks? Objects? Concepts? Terms? As logic is abstract, there is no interest in "objects". And formal logic is not even interested in "concepts". -LV
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