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Article #1084Re: "Elementary" elements in ZFC.
From: John
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:51
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:51
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torkel@scheutz.sics.se (Torkel Franz?) wrote in message news:<ul0lmh8ckve.fsf@scheutz.sics.se>...
> john_correy@excite.ca (John) writes:
>
> > > > Would you mind formulating your principle of restricted extensionality?
> > >
> > > If sets X and Y have the same members, X=Y.
> >
> > Does every mathie hatch like this?
>
> Well, is there anything you find obscure about the principle?
1. UNRESTRICTED AXIOM OF EXTENSIONALITY OF Z SET THEORY
AxAy[Az(z in x <-> z in y) -> x = y]
(Two sets are equal if, and only if, they have the same members.)
2. RESTRICTED AXIOM OF EXTENSIONALITY OF FRANZEN SET THEORY
? ? ?
(If sets X and Y have the same members, they are equal.)
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