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Article #14Re: Are all crows black?
From: Burt Voorhees
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 20:29
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 20:29
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daryl@oracorp.com (Daryl McCullough) writes: >In article <1992Oct21.170822.1775@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, >casley@Tarski.Stanford.EDU (Ross Casley) writes: >>>As you note, "all crows are black" and "all non-black objects are >+=>>non-crows" are logically equivalent. Now it is reasonable to consider a >>>black crow as a small piece of evidence for all crows being black; collect >>>enough such instances and no counterexamples and you can consider "all >>>crows are black" as being established by observation. >>> >>>But by exactly the same reasoning finding a non-black non-crow should be a >>>small piece of evidence supporting the proposition "all non-black objects >>>are non-crows," hence it should support "all crows are black." But this >>>obviously doesn't work. So there's something odd about this notion of >>>evidence. Either it doesn't respect logical equivalence, or it is not >>>possible to tell what counts as evidence for a proposition from its >>>logical form. >>Karl Popper had a lot to say about this sort of thing. What this >>paradox shows is that the notion of establishing a law of nature by >>induction (getting lots and lots of cases in which the law is true) is >>nonsensical. All that you ever establish is that the law holds in the >>cases you checked. A better way to test a law is to try everything you >>think of to prove that the law is *false*. If, in spite of your best >>efforts, you can never falsify the law, then the law is said to be >>(provisionally) confirmed. >>So, while the process of establishing a law by induction seems to >>allow a green tie to be evidence for "all crows are black", the >>process of attempting to falsify the law doesn't allow such >>irrelevancies to count as evidence. What this shows is the limited power of formal logic as a tool for induction. Consider: All crows are black. An inductive statement generated from observation of some finite number of black crows and no white (or non-black) crows. Now, how do I attempt to verify this? I might attempt to devise a mathematical theory based on obvious axioms within which I could deduce All crows are black as a theorem. Rather a dicy bit of work, that. Or, I could go about looking for a non-black crow as a counter-example. Note, however, that I am doing something different than when I started. That is, I am attempting to verify a general statement: All crows are black. When I began, looking as bunches of black crows and noting that I hadn't seen any non-black crows, I was attempting to doscover some general characterization of crows. At some point I had an epiphiny and said Ah Ha! All crows are black. After having come up with this as a hypothesis I reversed myself and, no longer interested in discovering the genral rule, began to attempt to vberify the rule I discovered. This is just the difference Popper makes between the logics of Discovery and verification. Popper doesn't have much to say about discovery--it doesn't fit his model which is based on formal logic. The point is that there is a double movement here: bottom up and top down. I need both, but only in the latter can I appeal to formal logic. In the former there are other things which come into play, which would exclude finding a green tie (e.g.,) as a confirmation that all crows are black. Indeed, at that point I don't even have the statement that all crows are black--I have a question: What is the essential characteristic of crows? bv
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!usenet.coe.montana.edu!decwrl!decwrl!atha!aupair.cs.athabascau.ca!burt From: burt@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Burt Voorhees) Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.physics Subject: Re: Are all crows black? Message-ID: <burt.720217788@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> Date: 27 Oct 92 20:29:48 GMT Article-I.D.: aupair.burt.720217788 References: <1992Oct24.135558.15100@oracorp.com> Sender: news@cs.athabascau.ca Followup-To: sci.logic Lines: 62