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Article #175Re: ZFC+~Con(ZFC)
From: Colin Mclarty
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:46
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:46
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In a previous article, jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk (Richard Kennaway) says: >In article <1992Aug20.171630.18667@ariel.ec.usf.edu> Gregory McColm, >mccolm@darwin.math.usf.edu. writes: >>The standard (ie, wellfounded) models all satisfy Con(ZFC) > >Can someone clarify for me the term "standard model"? Is this a concept >with a formal definition, or is a "standard model" of a theory, simply a >model which satisfies the intuitions which inspired the axioms of the >theory? > >-- >Richard Kennaway SYS, University of East Anglia, Norwich NR4 7TJ, U.K. >Internet: jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk uucp: ...mcsun!ukc!uea-sys!jrk > I do not know what all "standard" might mean, but in a lot of contexts including this one it means "not non-standard" where "non- standard" is used as in "non-standard analysis". In short, a model is "standard" in this sense if all the sets it takes to be finite are actually finite. If a model is standard in this sense then all the sets it takes as codes for proofs of ZF actually are such codes, and so there is no set taken as coding a proof ofa contradiction, so the model satisfies Con(ZF). Of course all of this assumes there are models in the first place, so ZF is consistent. As a previous poster said, models of ZF+not-Con(ZF) are just models that recognize some sets as codes for proofs of contradictions. But what these sets code are not really finite proofs--i.e. are not proofs at all.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!po.CWRU.Edu!cxm7 From: cxm7@po.CWRU.Edu (Colin Mclarty) Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: ZFC+~Con(ZFC) Message-ID: <1992Aug27.154627.3228@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Date: 27 Aug 92 15:46:27 GMT Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Aug27.154627.3228 References: <7160@charon.cwi.nl> <1992Aug20.171630.18667@ariel.ec.usf.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ins.cwru.edu Reply-To: cxm7@po.CWRU.Edu (Colin Mclarty) Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 35 Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu