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Article #267Re: The Mathematical Universe
From: Chris Menzel
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:31
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:31
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In article <1992Oct13.191930.17813@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes: >Michael Hand writes: >> ...[T]here is little to conclude except that any feature of an account >> that identifies 3 with a set is a superfluous one -- and that therefore >> 3, and its fellow numbers, could not be sets at all. >> >> [from "What Numbers Could Not Be"] >>_______________________________________________________________________ >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Michael Hand phone (409)845-5660, fax (409)845-0458 >>Dept of Philosophy, Texas A&M Univ, College Station TX 77843-4237 U.S.A. > >Au contraire, it is obvious which set the cardinal number 3 is. It is >the set of all sets with three elements (this _can_ be defined in a >non-circular manner, by the way). Surely it is obvious that this set is *not* the cardinal number 3, since otherwise, by extensionality, we get a different number 3 whenever something begins or ceases to exist--unless you want to say that only pure sets (or at least sets of eternal objects) are elements of the number 3, but that would introduce just the sort of arbitrariness that gives Benacerraf's argument its bite. Nonetheless, there *is* something very natural about the set you identify with 3; maybe because it is the *extension* of a much more plausible candidate (at least for the friends of intensionality), viz., the *property* that all 3-membered sets have in common... >The opinions expressed | --Sincerely, >above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes >opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ. >or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu --Chris Menzel Department of Philosophy Texas A&M University
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Newsgroups: sci.logic Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!ames!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!cmenzel From: cmenzel@tamsun.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) Subject: Re: The Mathematical Universe Message-ID: <1992Oct13.213159.23649@tamsun.tamu.edu> Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station References: <1992Oct9.162417.18298@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1992Oct9.203658.25387@tamsun.tamu.edu> <1992Oct13.191930.17813@guinness.idbsu.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:31:59 GMT Lines: 36