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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 09:37
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 09:37
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crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes: : The theory that posits existence of W bosons is certainly falsifiable, : and Popper certainly includes positive corroboration as a part of : the process of science. I think correctly, though, he is very : careful to state that this does not imply that the : theory is 'true' or even 'probable'. So why did Carlo get the Nobel? He didn't falsify anything, and, according to Popper, he did not show that anything is true or even "probable". : : : If this is your job, then I'd enjoy seeing a definition of : 'truth' and your algorithm for establishing it. : : Actually, a watertight definition of 'truth' will do. : I'd like to see how you get around this without sounding like : a flaming positivist or establishing a new religion. I will give you a definition of truth if you can give me a conclusive discussion of free will vs determinism. Or if you can define the word "exists". My main point is this: Popper may or may not be entitled to prescribe what physicists ought to do. That is moot. What I can say with certainty is that physicists do not in fact behave in anything like the way that Popper thinks they do or should. If you look at the way that physicists actually behave, you will find that they will claim that Rubbia got the Nobel because he showed that the GSW theory [NOT the latter-day GSW] was right. If pressed, they will no doubt say "probably right": what they mean is that they do not actively doubt its truth. [Of course if you start talking about higher energies they will say something else, but the point is that to most people there is nothing wrong in saying that a theory is true or probably true]. By the way: would Popper say that Abian's theory is an excellent one on the grounds that it is so obviously wrong? Would you permit me to say that what Abian says is not....true? :
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Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!nuscc!matmcinn From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Woody Allen in Manhattan where the hell else would I be) Subject: Re: Are all crows black? Message-ID: <1992Oct27.093736.1820@nuscc.nus.sg> Organization: National University of Singapore References: <1992Oct27.043739.11703@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 09:37:36 GMT Lines: 37