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Article #311Re: Impredicativity - was: Russell's Paradox
From: Randall Holmes
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 19:31
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 19:31
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Re Gudeman: Your criterion for an acceptable property is wrong. The open sentence "x is not an element of x" is in fact true or false for each x, in any reasonable set theory. But it does not define a set. The reason it does not define a set is that _if it defined a set_ there would be a problem with substituting some particular x (the extension of this property) into the sentence. There is in fact no instance in either ZFC or NFU in which "~x E x" fails to be true or false for some x; in ZFC, it is _always true_, and in NFU it is sometimes true and sometimes false. My appeal to particular set theories is merely to point out that this situation is coherent and belies your criterion for a property to be a "real" property. Some perfectly well-defined open sentences which have truth values no matter what is substituted into them cannot have extensions or intensions. Once again, there is no problem with self-membership or non-self-membership holding of particular objects; there simply is no "object" which is the extension of "self-membership" or "non-self-membership". And this does not mean that the objects in the universe are not unambiguously divided between the self-members and the non-self-members; there is no ambiguity, no gray area between them. But there cannot be a set of the non-self-members. -- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely, above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ. or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.logic Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pmafire!mica.inel.gov!guinness!garnet.idbsu.edu!holmes From: holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) Subject: Re: Impredicativity - was: Russell's Paradox Message-ID: <1992Nov6.193134.17283@guinness.idbsu.edu> Sender: usenet@guinness.idbsu.edu (Usenet News mail) Nntp-Posting-Host: garnet Organization: Boise State University References: <25926@optima.cs.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:31:34 GMT Lines: 31