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Re: Ad hominum

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From: maj
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:52
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In article <BxK0uw.7tC@unx.sas.com>, sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov11.173613.12104@waikato.ac.nz>, maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> |> Gary Merrill in sci.classics :
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Brian, you're being really dense here.  The point is not what kinds
> |> of insight one acquires by being a woman, a slave, or a serf, but
> |> rather what *position* one may gain by being a "feminist philosopher",
> |> a "slave philospher",  or a "serf philosopher".
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Gary Merrill in sci.logic  :
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Ah yes.  The ultimate academic bugaboo:  funding.  Everything (even your
> |> taxonomy of cognitive disciplines) must be a slave to funding.
> 
> No, not exactly.  While these remarks *might* be attacked as being
> certain types of fallacies of relevance, the fallacy in question
> are *not* ad hominem.  I refer you to Carney & Scheer, _Logic and
> Argument_ for the details (or any decent book on rhetoric).

Sorry. I know that there was no ad hominem in a technical sense.
And I was refering to *my* argumentation in maliciously quoting
you, rather that the structure of your *your* argument.

> 
> Moreover, since these were *not* offered as *arguments*, it is
> somewhat inaccurate to characterize them thus.  Think of them as
> armchair (though based on some experience with these matters)
> sociological observations concerning *why* certain things are of
> intense interest to academics at certain times.  I not, at least,
> that you do not impugn the *truth* of these remarks.
> 
Only indirectly, in that they appear to contradict each other, at
least if the 'must' in the second quote is intended to be ironic.

> -- 
> Gary H. Merrill  [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development]
> SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC  27513 / (919) 677-8000
> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm
-- 
Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ]    University of Waikato
Department of Mathematics and Statistics     Hamilton, New Zealand      
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From: maj@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.classics
Subject: Re: Ad hominum
Message-ID: <1992Nov13.155204.12152@waikato.ac.nz>
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:52:04 +1300
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