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Article #441Re: "Solvability" in Chess
From: Stephen Bloch
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 18:34
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 18:34
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ed@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (edward.m.hummel) writes: >Consider the game 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ng1 Ng8 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Ng1 Ng8 5.Nf3 Nf6 >and so on, forever; with neither player choosing to claim a draw. And, presumably, neither player choosing to break out of the loop by doing something else. >I am asking for a proof that when collapsing the game tree to determine the >value of the initial position, this sequence must have the value of a draw. >As far as I can see, such a sequence (or the node corresponding to >one of the positions in the sequence) has indeterminable value. This >does not mean that chess is unsolvable. Under the assumption that both players are playing optimally (under the assumption that their opponents are playing optimally, under the assumption...), I can prove this. If either player could force a win by breaking out of the loop, one or the other would have done so before the loop completed EVEN ONCE. If neither player can force a win, and if neither player is daring enough to break out of the loop into a possibly- losing situation on the assumption that the opponent will make a mistake, the game is effectively drawn whether either player "claims" it or not. If you insist on a formal claim, I have to make the additional assumption that at least one of the players prefers a draw to an infinite game. If you grant me that, said player will follow the above reasoning, conclude that the best (s)he can hope for is a draw, claim a draw, and get on with the rest of life. -- Stephen Bloch sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!olivea!sgigate!sgiblab!sdd.hp.com!caen!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!alberta!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!access.usask.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!silver.cs.umanitoba.ca!sbloch From: sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Stephen Bloch) Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math,rec.games.chess Subject: Re: "Solvability" in Chess Message-ID: <1992Oct1.183451.18645@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Date: 1 Oct 92 18:34:51 GMT References: <1992Sep26.132508.24956@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <xeno.717575523@pv34ad.vincent.iastate.edu> <1992Sep27.161451.20136@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: Computer Science, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada Lines: 31 Nntp-Posting-Host: silver.cs.umanitoba.ca