Article View: sci.logic
Article #460Re: The Mathematical Universe
From: Randall Holmes
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 15:59
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 15:59
54 lines
3281 bytes
3281 bytes
In article <BvpECx.41I@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes: [...] > >Well, I'm still trying to get a grip on what this means -- particularly >since I thought you were holding a realist or Platonist position arrayed >against the sort of anti-realist position I have espoused. At this point, >I'm having trouble distinguishing your position from my own. > > > >-- >Gary H. Merrill [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development] >SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / (919) 677-8000 >sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm Probably the point is that I am not really a "possible worlds realist" in the sense you are describing. I think that there is only one actual total (logical) universe. Where I do find talk of possible worlds reasonable is in the discussion of the physical world that we live in. Since I think that the physical world is a subset of the logical universe, I find it reasonable to suppose that alternate physical worlds (all possible ones) _actually exist_ (in exactly the same sense that ours does). Such worlds provide an actual model for Kripke's semantics for modal logic, for discussions restricted to the physical world; in the internal language of this model, they are "possible worlds". It is probably an abuse of terminology to call them "possible worlds" without reference to this model. I don't think that one of them is especially worthy of notice, except for the fact that I (and all of _us_) are in it. In an absolute sense (relative to the _logical_ universe) I am _not_ a possible worlds realist; I think that there is one actual logical universe. However, there are various ways to describe the actual universe, and it is also possible to "model" alternate logical universes (in some suitable sense) within the actual one; in this sense, it is possible to talk about counterfactual "possible logical universes", but I do not ascribe reality to these (only to their models). My working logic is classical logic (not modal logic) and I am a mathematical realist; thus, I think that there are models of the Kripke semantics for modal logic. In relation to the physical world, I think that there are models of various versions of Kripke semantics for talk of the physical world in which the other "possible worlds" have the same status as our own. In this context, I am a realist with respect to possible worlds. In the case of the entire logical universe, I am not. -- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely, above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ. or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<1992Oct6.155930.2363@guinness.idbsu.edu>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pmafire!mica.inel.gov!guinness!opal.idbsu.edu!holmesReferences:
<BvnGy0.BH0@unx.sas.com> <1992Oct5.215056.17908@guinness.idbsu.edu> <BvpECx.41I@unx.sas.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Newsgroups: sci.logic Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pmafire!mica.inel.gov!guinness!opal.idbsu.edu!holmes From: holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) Subject: Re: The Mathematical Universe Message-ID: <1992Oct6.155930.2363@guinness.idbsu.edu> Keywords: inconsistent multiplicities Sender: usenet@guinness.idbsu.edu (Usenet News mail) Nntp-Posting-Host: opal Organization: Boise State University References: <BvnGy0.BH0@unx.sas.com> <1992Oct5.215056.17908@guinness.idbsu.edu> <BvpECx.41I@unx.sas.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:59:30 GMT Lines: 54