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Article #482Re: decidable group theory
From: Thorsten Altenkirch
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:52
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:52
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In article <1g282rINN5ja@eagle.dfki.uni-sb.de> treinen@dfki.uni-sb.de (Ralf Treinen) writes:
In article <19921208.075322039663.NETNEWS@ALIJKU11>, groda@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Giovanna Roda) writes:
|> Suppose we are given an axiomatization for the theory of groups consisting
|> of the following three axioms:
|> (x*y)*z=x*(y*z)
|> Vy x=y*z
|> Vz x=y*z
|> (where V is the existential quantifier).
|> Is this theory decidable?
No. This has been proven in
@InCollection{Tar:groups53,
author = "Alfred Tarski",
title = "Undecidability in the Elementary Theory of Groups",
pages = "75--87",
crossref= "TMR:Undecidable53"
}
No I am slightly confused. Am I wrong remembering that the followoing
presentation of groups
(x*y)*z=x*(y*z)
x*e = x
e*x = x
i(x)*x = e
x*i(x) = e
could be completed using the Knuth-Bendix algorithm & therefore is
decidable. How does this relate to the above mentioned result?
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!warwick!uknet!edcastle!dcs.ed.ac.uk!alti From: alti@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Thorsten Altenkirch) Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: decidable group theory Message-ID: <ALTI.92Dec14145206@campay.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Date: 14 Dec 92 14:52:06 GMT References: <19921208.075322039663.NETNEWS@ALIJKU11> <1g282rINN5ja@eagle.dfki.uni-sb.de> Sender: cnews@dcs.ed.ac.uk (UseNet News Admin) Organization: LFCS, Edinburgh Lines: 38 In-Reply-To: treinen@dfki.uni-sb.de's message of 8 Dec 92 13:31:07 GMT