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Article #507Re: Logic and Mathematicians
From: Randall Holmes
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:49
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:49
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In article <1992Nov15.191744.17481@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes: >In article <1992Nov15.220359.21971@guinness.idbsu.edu> >holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes: > >>In article <1992Nov14.141234.26280@email.tuwien.ac.at> >>zach@csdec1.tuwien.ac.at writes: > >>>In article <1992Nov12.204959.17389@husc3.harvard.edu>, >>>zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes: > >MZ: >>>>I offer Post's problem as a counterexample. Also, it doesn't seem >>>>that there could be a solution for "P =? NP" that would render the >>>>problem silly in retrospect. > >RZ: >>>Oh yes: Prove P=NP is independent of ZFC. It actuall HAS >>>been shown independent in some weak arithmetics. > >Funny, I would have thought independence to be indicative of >foundational profundity, rather than triviality. > >>>-- >>>Richard Zach Technische Universitaet Wien >>>[zach@csdec1.tuwien.ac.at] Abteilung fuer Formale Logik 185.2 > >RH: >>Wouldn't that actually answer the question? > >Only from the standpoint of a formalist. No, I think it might answer it from a realist standpoint, but I'm having trouble chasing quantifiers around in my head; I can't tell without sitting down and thinking about it, and I have things to do... I was hoping that someone would know the answer. > >>-- >>The opinions expressed --Sincerely, >>above are not the "official" M. Randall Holmes >>opinions of any person Math. Dept., Boise State Univ. >>or institution. holmes@opal.idbsu.edu > >cordially, >mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu >" -- I shall speak bluntly, because life is short." -- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely, above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ. or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pmafire!mica.inel.gov!guinness!garnet.idbsu.edu!holmes From: holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) Subject: Re: Logic and Mathematicians Message-ID: <1992Nov16.164912.5597@guinness.idbsu.edu> Sender: usenet@guinness.idbsu.edu (Usenet News mail) Nntp-Posting-Host: garnet Organization: Boise State University References: <1992Nov14.141234.26280@email.tuwien.ac.at> <1992Nov15.220359.21971@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1992Nov15.191744.17481@husc3.harvard.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:49:12 GMT Lines: 54