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Article #670Re: Which Makes Most Sense?
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:52
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:52
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Barbara Bailey wrote: > On 15 Dec 2006 08:31:21 -0800, "Prisoner at War" > <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >Flying Tortoise wrote: > >> > >> > >> 95 in 100 .... or .... ninety-five in a hundred, never mix 'em! > > > >Well, I think the rule is that if spelling it out gets more > >"complicated" than writing the numerals, then write the numeral (and > >vice-versa). Thus, you could wind up mixing 'em in a sentence like > >"269 in a billion".... > > > >> Question marks should be placed inside the quotation marks only if the > >> material in quotes is a question. If the quote forms part of a question > >> but is not the question, then the punctuation goes outside as logic > >> dictates. Punctuation is supposed to help you read what the author > >> intends, after all! > > > >I agree. But the whole point of tucking things, including the period > >(for example, you're quoting a phrase, not the whole sentence, but you > >yourself are done with your sentence), within a quote is that it looks > >nice. Hate to be inconsistent, even if logic demands it! > > > >And what do you do to show that you're quoting a quote? Like, use > >"double" quotations marks (use them twice)? > > I was taught that nested quotes get alternating double and single > quotation marks with an added space between then where they run up > into each other and always starting with double quotes. > Thusly:: > He said, "I don't remember." > She told me, "He said, 'I don't remember.' " > Joe said, "She told me 'He said, "I don't remember." ' " ad infinitum. That "extra space" would refer only to typewriting, and in fact I never encountered that instruction. In word processing, with variable-width fonts, the typesetter should insert a "thin space" between two adjacent quotation marks. Unfortunately, in MSWord the smallest space you can get is "1/4 em," which is much too big -- and which, moreover, is interpreted as a word-space, so it will happily divide lines between them! > I was also taught that parentheses and square brackets were nested the > same way, always starting with parentheses. Of course, that was back > when typewriters were high-tech, and only specialty keyboards had > curly brackets on them. Your typewriter had square brackets??
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