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Article #804Re: A Guide for Cantor Cranks
From: William Hughes
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:28
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:28
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On Mar 21, 9:56 pm, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 7:48 am, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Do you really think that you can give me a list and
> > > > I cannot make a sequence from the main diagonal?
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> > > > - William Hughes-
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> > > no!
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> > Do you really thing that there is a binary sequence
> > from which you cannot get another binary sequence
> > by changing every 0 to 1 and every 1 to 0?
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> Define GET.
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Given a binary sequence b does there exist a binary
sequence b' such that wherever b has a 0, b' has a 1
and wherever b has a 1 b' has a 0?
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> > > but you can make any sequence from any diagonal.
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> > Almost, but only by shuffling rows and getting
> > new list. And you can't make any sequence,
> > just most sequences.
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> > > Take your pick. D[1] = 0..9 D[2] = 0..9 D[3] = 0..9 ....
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> > > Will you answer my question whether your claim is equivalent/also
> > > to give a missing real from any generalised diagonal,
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> > Yes, I have already said so numerous times. There is nothing
> > special about the "main diagonal" it is just the one I
> > happen to use.
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> > > and if that is equivalent to the concealed digits methodology?
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> > If you cleaned this up to the point one could be relatively
> > certain, probably.
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> > - William Hughes-
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> If you keep being honest Will you will have to accept the truth!
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> Now you are ready! To return to THIS question about this particular
> Infinite Random Digit Plane
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Look very finite to me
> 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxx1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxx0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxx1xxxxxxxxxx
> x0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxx0xxxxxxxxxxx
> xxx1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxx1xxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxx1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xx1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxx1xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxx0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxx1xxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxx0xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxx1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1xxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx0xxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1xxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1xxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx0xxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1xxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx0xx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1x
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1
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> Is that sufficient information for you to prove higher infinite sets
No, of course not. To start with it is not even infinite.
The most you can say is that however you fill in the x's
the list will not contain
010010100100100110000100
- William Hughes
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