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Article #815Re: A Guide for Cantor Cranks
From: William Hughes
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:18
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:18
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On Mar 24, 7:12 am, Albrecht <albst...@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 24 Mrz., 10:31, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Recall
> > The anti-diagonal is formed by taking the
> > diagonal and changing every 0 to 1 and 1 to 0.
> > Any claim that the anti-diagonal does not exist is
> > silly. Any claim that the anti-diagonal is equal to
> > a row of the list is silly.
> > On Mar 24, 4:51 am, Albrecht <albst...@gmx.de> wrote:
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> > > Any claim that an irrational decimal number exists is silly.
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> > > Pi has to be the limit of the serie
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> > > 3/1, 31/10, 314/100, 3141/1000, 31415/10000, ...
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> > > If you claim the existence of an irrational decimal number you claim
> > > the existence of the number
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> > > 31415.../10000...
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> > > with infinite numerator and inifite denominator.
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> > Absolute piffle. There is no reason that defining the
> > existence of the limit of finite ratios means that you
> > have to define either infinite quantities, or the ratio
> > of infinite quantities.
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> So you admit that an infinite decimal number has crucial other
> properties than a finite decimal number?
>You admit that a number like
> 3.1415... is crucial different from a number like 0.75?
Nope. I said nothing about the differences between
an irrational number and a rational number.
> But you insist that the "behaviour" of a number like 3.1415... should
> be like the "behaviour" of a number like 0.75?
I said nothing of the sort.
My point is that while you need infinite sequences
of *finite* rations to
definite irrational numbers, you don't need either
infinite quantities or the ratio of infinite quantities.
- William Hughes
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