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Article #828Re: A Guide for Cantor Cranks
From: Albrecht
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:24
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:24
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On 25 Mrz., 12:19, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 4:30 am, Albrecht <albst...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Mrz., 20:36, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 24, 2:59 pm, Albrecht <albst...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > > On 24 Mrz., 15:40, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote: > > > > > > In article <971970b6-b722-4f38-96cb-4aef5f17e...@b22g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > Albrecht <albst...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > > >Pi has to be the limit of the serie > > > > > > >3/1, 31/10, 314/100, 3141/1000, 31415/10000, ... > > > > > > >If you claim the existence of an irrational decimal number you claim > > > > > >the existence of the number > > > > > > >31415.../10000... > > > > > > >with infinite numerator and inifite denominator. > > > > > > One third has to be the limit of the series > > > > > > 3/10, 33/100, 333/1000, ... > > > > > > If you claim the existence of one third you claim the existence of the > > > > > number > > > > > > 33333.../100000... > > > > > > with infinite numerator and denominator. > > > > > No. The "number" 0.333... > > > > Was not mentioned by anyone. > > > It appears to have gone over your head > > > that Richard was simply replacing pi > > > by 1/3. > > > One can't simply replace pi by 1/3 > > concerning the mentioned the > > aspects 'cause pi is irrational and 1/3 isn't. > > The point which continues to elude you is that you > made no use of the fact that pi is irrational. > You only made use of the fact that the decimal > expansion of pi is infinite. In your argument > you can replace pi by *any* number that > has an infinite decimal expansion. > But in the case of rational numbers, the "infinite expansion" is only a phrase. In effect there are only three dots. There is no infinite thing. In the case of irrational numbers, the decimal numeral is just a Fata Morgana. Actually any numeral which seemingly depicts an irrational number can only be definite with respect to the context. Look at 3.1415.... . Is it pi? Or is it 3.141567891011... ? Who knows. Best Albrecht
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